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re: More Background Information On Mahmoud Khalil:

Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:30 pm to
Let me help you, AggieHank, because this is what I do for a living. I have two decades of enforcing federal immigration law.

Khalil does not enjoy the same 1st Amendment rights as an American Citizen. Khalil is a Lawful Permanent Resident (aka, "green card" holder). While this gives him broad rights in terms of coming and going from the US, owning property, etc., he has certain obligations that you and I don't have. For example, Permanent Residents have an expectation to "support the democratic form of government". (This link is taken directly from the US Citizenship and Immigration Services website.) Khalil has been accused of directly supporting named terrorist organizations and advocating against the United States.

Another way to lose your Permanent Residency status is through willful misrepresentation. I'm certain Khalil did not mention on his immigration application that he was harbored pro-Hamas beliefs and would be working to foment rebellion against the country he was seeking to enter. (Yes, there are blanks on the form that cover this.) Therefore, the United States can argue he willfully misrepresented his purpose for entry.

Finally, take a peek at the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, specifically Section 212(a)(3)(C)(i). Under this law, the United States Secretary of State may deem a non-citizen deportable if he/she thinks their presence or activities may harm U.S. interests. Reread that sentence. Take it all in and let it wash over you.

ETA: Source- 10 years as a Border Patrol agent, 10 years working for an investigative three letter agency.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted by NussBusDriver
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
He will ignore and deflect.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

ClientNumber9


Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:08 pm to
I have no problem with contributing high-speed metal projectiles until each mercenary in those terrorist activities are shredded.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 5:17 pm to
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The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from "abridging free speech." End of clause ... Full stop.


The 1st Amendment protects peaceful assembly to redress political grievances — other behaviors — such as blocking access to classrooms, occupying administrative offices, harassing other students, and/or threatening to kill Zionists aren’t 1st Amendment considerations.

Full stop.



www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Khalil does not enjoy the same 1st Amendment rights as an American Citizen. Khalil is a Lawful Permanent Resident (aka, "green card" holder). While this gives him broad rights in terms of coming and going from the US, owning property, etc., he has certain obligations that you and I don't have. For example, Permanent Residents have an expectation to "support the democratic form of government".


Khalil served as the spokesperson for the The Columbia University Apartheid Divest, the student led protest group which has openly suggested that killing Zionists is justified. Though the Biden administration may have let these threats go unchallenged, there is a new Sheriff in town.



And of course, the very best way to show support for Khalil by those who claim he has been wrongfully detained is to trespass and illegally occupy a building.



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This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3359 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:16 pm to
Hank, aren't you a Johnny on the spot in responding to posts such as this ( ClientNumber9) with supposed superior intellect and 'lawyerly' expertise?
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 12:05 am
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:43 pm to
Figured. Crickets.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:54 pm to
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The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from "abridging free speech." End of clause ... Full stop.
quote:

The 1st Amendment protects peaceful assembly to redress political grievances — other behaviors — such as blocking access to classrooms, occupying administrative offices, harassing other students, and/or threatening to kill Zionists aren’t 1st Amendment considerations.

What a TRULY brilliant observation. You raise issue that I never would have considered, absent your contribution to this discussion.

Certainly, I must have missed all the videos of Khalil engaging in these various ... behaviors. Doubtless, there are hundreds of such videos, and I am just too incompetent in google search syntax to find even one of them.

Doubtless, your skillset far exceeds my own. Perhaps you would do me the kindness of linking a few such videos. I would be eternally grateful.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:58 pm to
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Figured. Crickets.
Alas, I was otherwise occupied and thus unable to provide the instantaneous response that your brilliant post clearly warranted. For that, I am deeply ashamed.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11223 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:13 pm to
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For the 5,673rd time, please show where Khalil supported HAMAS.


Don't have to, retard. That's not the standard.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8090 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:48 pm to
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AggieHank86


"assertive of authority in an annoyingly domineering way, especially with regard to petty or trivial matters"

fits you to a T
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22898 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:51 pm to
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He is being deported in violation of the First Amendment


Were you alive in the late 70s? Jimmy Carter deported Iranians with green cards and student visas. He banned Iranians from entering the United States except for a few who supported the Shah. What the Trump administration is doing is quite similar.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135444 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:29 am to
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The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from "abridging free speech." End of clause ... Full stop. There is no asterisk saying '"free speech of citizens only."
The courts also limit 1stA application in various ways. i.e., Yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

LINK ]BBONDS had this issue nailed from the beginning. He clarified the law and deportation standards to the extent that I'm surprised it's still being discussed here, 1 1/2 wks later.

Here's a nice summary from yesterday's WaPo basically reiterating BBONDS' take:
quote:

The Columbia protest case is about immigration law, not free speech
Mahmoud Khalil has First Amendment advocates on his side. But facts and the law are against him.

By Tal Fortgang
March 18, 2025


First, consider the facts. No one disputes that Khalil was the face of Columbia University Apartheid Divest, an umbrella group for pro-Palestinian campus organizations opposed to “the Zionist project” during CUAD’s “Gaza Solidarity Encampment” at Columbia in April last year. Although he recently told The Post he is not affiliated with CUAD, when CUAD protesters occupied a building at Barnard College, Khalil spoke for them to the administration. His attempt to disassociate himself from CUAD now warrants skepticism.


Members of Columbia University Apartheid Divest, including Mahmoud Khalil, center, and Sueda Polat, second from left, outside the campus in New York last April 30. (Mary Altaffer/AP)

Just to be clear: CUAD does not just have an implied affinity for terrorists; it celebrates them: When Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed by Israeli troops last year, CUAD published a “tribute” to this “hero of the revolution,” extolling him for organizing Hamas’s Oct. 7, 2023, terrorist attack on Israel — one of “the greatest moments of Palestinian resistance.”
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Now, consider the law.

The Immigration and Nationality Act authorizes the deportation of noncitizens for various reasons. As the Trump administration might argue, at least three could apply to Khalil’s case. The government may deport a noncitizen who serves as “a representative … an officer, official, or spokesman” of “a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity.” Khalil has in the past unequivocally held himself out as a representative of CUAD, which explicitly endorses terrorism. Doing so is not a matter of speech, but action.

The U.S. government may also deport anyone for whom there is “reasonable ground to believe, seeks to enter the United States to engage solely, principally, or incidentally in … any activity a purpose of which is the opposition to, or the control or overthrow of, the Government of the United States by force, violence, or other unlawful means.” Last summer, CUAD called for the “total eradication of Western civilization,” providing reasonable ground for government officials to believe that Khalil entered the country to at least oppose the government.

Finally, the clause of the Immigration and Nationality Act that most worries First Amendment defenders: A noncitizen who “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization” is liable to deportation. Well-meaning critics warn that enforcing this provision violates the First Amendment’s broad protections. But unless Khalil can successfully argue that he has never been associated with CUAD — despite ample evidence suggesting the contrary — there is simply no collision.

“Espouses” does not mean advancing a cause through speech alone. It means, to use one definition, “adopt or support (a cause, belief, or way of life).”

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Posted by jscrims
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:58 am to
Media propaganda has really done a number on you.


You can’t forcibly take over a building, make demands, and then threaten the people who own/operate the building.

That is multiple crimes. All of which are recorded and discussed in this idiots multiple press conferences while illegally occupying a building. If you or I did it, we would be in jail too. This guys just happens to be in jail and being sent out of the country because he violated the terms of his green card.

How is this hard to understand?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:11 am to
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Certainly, I must have missed all the videos of Khalil engaging in these various ... behaviors. Doubtless, there are hundreds of such videos, and I am just too incompetent in google search syntax to find even one of them.


Yet you apparently missed the many news reports that have revealed that Khalil served as an organizer and spokesperson for CUAD, the radical Columbia University protest organization that has publicly advocated for the violent targeting of anyone holding pro-Israeli sentiments.

This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 6:13 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135444 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Yet you apparently missed the many news reports that have revealed that Khalil served as an organizer and spokesperson for CUAD, the radical Columbia University protest organization that has publicly advocated for the violent targeting of anyone holding pro-Israeli sentiments.
+1
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:15 pm to
If I invite you to my house and when you get there you act a fool, my response will be Get Out. America is our house and our response to his acting a fool is Get Out.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:54 pm to
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+1


Statement by CUAD spokesperson Mahmoud Khalil:

“As long as Columbia continues to invest and to benefit from Israeli apartheid, the students will continue to resist…Not only protests and encampments, the limit is the sky.”

Subsequent statement from CUAD, revoking an earlier apology after one of it’s members threatened to violently target those holding pro-Israeli views.

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance.”



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Posted by cadillacattack
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:02 pm to
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