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re: Moore was a truly terrible candidate.

Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:09 am to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26201 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:09 am to
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In retrospect, Moore was a truly terrible candidate.


In retrospect? In real time he was a terrible candidate and we told y’all that many many times on here. “Oh yeah prove it” while making arrogant suggestions that he couldn’t lose was the main response.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50891 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to
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You voted for him in the Primaries?!

No, my support in the primaries was for Tripp Pittman. I'm just saying if we could go back, I wish we could have had Strange over Moore.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37038 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to
"In retrospect, I should have skipped the play." - A. Lincoln
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37523 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to
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Well, I've always thought he was a bad candidate, but by terrible I mean a candidate that could not win.

Out of state posters might have underestimated just how many people in Alabama dislike Roy Moore. I left the state 20 years ago and he already had a load of people that despised him.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4514 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to
quote:

In retrospect, Moore was a truly terrible candidate.


In "retrospect"?

He's been a horrible person, professional and politician for decades. He's an arrogant, lying, self-aggrandizing loser.

I hate that the Republicans lost the Senate seat, but if the base of the party can't support better candidates than the likes of Moore, then we'll continue to see the Democrats drift farther to the left and the Republicans having no ability to check them.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50891 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:11 am to
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In retrospect???



Give me a break


Read all of my posts in this thread and maybe you will see what I meant.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73200 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:13 am to
Woman accuses Republican = fake
Woman accuses Dem =ride that sick f*ck out on a rail.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:14 am to
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by terrible I mean a candidate that could not win.



That's the thing, he could have won despite being a terrible candidate. He chose to disappear from the campaign trail in the final 2 weeks of the campaign and sent his dumbass staff out to speak for him. Jones flat out worked him and got his people to the polls.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50891 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:15 am to
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That's the thing, he could have won despite being a terrible candidate. He chose to disappear from the campaign trail in the final 2 weeks of the campaign and sent his dumbass staff out to speak for him. Jones flat out worked him and got his people to the polls.

Totally agree. I guess I thought that Moore still had a shot to win, despite everything. So looking back, I realize that he couldn't do that. His campaign failed bigly. They did worse than the Romney Campaign in 2012.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:16 am to
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sent his dumbass staff out to speak for him.

And holy shite did he have a dumbass staff.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:16 am to
He is a horrible campaigner. Always has been.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37523 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:17 am to
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He chose to disappear from the campaign trail in the final 2 weeks of the campaign and sent his dumbass staff out to speak for him.

That 20 seconds of dead air after his campaign manager was informed that you didn't have to swear on a bible is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:17 am to
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I guess I thought that Moore still had a shot to win, despite everything

He lost by 1.5%. He still had a shot.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:17 am to
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That 20 seconds of dead air after his campaign manager was informed that you didn't have to swear on a bible is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

That was incredible.
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4427 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:20 am to
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The blame goes to McConnell for not having the vision or leadership abilities to initially get behind Mo Brooks.



I loathe Mitch but he is the Senate majority leader and he backed a sitting member of the US Senate that had voted with him and Trump on everything. He was never going to back anyone but Strange.

This is a 100% on Bannon and his minions, they need to be told to park it before they destroy whatever chances the GOP has of holding the Senate. Bannon is already working on destroying AZ for the GOP by propping up his next clown...Kelli Ward.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18664 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:22 am to
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The blame goes to McConnell for not having the vision or leadership abilities to initially get behind Mo Brooks.


why? Strange had already been in Washington and voted for Trump's agenda lock-step. If Mo Brooks wins the Primary, sure, you do have another House member who has voted lock-step with Trump - but then you have to fill a House seat... in an area that isn't guaranteed to go Republican.

The Republicans actually did what was best from a strategy prospective. Also looking at the way Moore has constantly lost everything... they actually thought Moore would be a SUPER easy guy to defeat - they somehow missed how despised Strange had become because of the whole Governor crap though, and that's why they lost.

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This is a 100% on the Bannon and his minions, they need to be told to park it before the destroy whatever chances the GOP has of holding the Senate. Bannon is already working on destroying AZ for the GOP by propping up his next clown...Kelli Ward.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:26 am to
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Jones did not because the majority of Alabama voters support his views on the issues.

He didn't win because Alabama is some newly progressive state.



How long did it take you to come up with this theory? I think everyone everywhere gets this. But keep in mind that Alabama voters chose Moore over Luther Strange. Maybe the bigger story is how crazy Republican voters in Alabama have gotten that would back the jackass Republican candidate and reject the more viable Republican candidate.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:34 am to
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If I could go back now, I would take Luther Strange (as much as I dislike him and the establishment support he had) over Roy Moore.


I really don’t understand a vote for Strange.. what has Shelby or Sessions done for the state of Alabama? Sure, he would vote lockstep for Trumps agenda. But after Trumps term is up he would just be the incompetent establishment career politician who just whores himself out to big donors.
Alabama needs to find someone that actually wants what’s best for its people. This should be a wake up call to start calling out members of the Alabama GOP to get their shite together.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43935 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:36 am to
It was the perfect storm which is what it takes to get a Democrat elected in this state for the first time in 20 years. It had nothing to do with policies. Nothing.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23998 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:49 am to
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Out of state posters might have underestimated just how many people in Alabama dislike Roy Moore. I left the state 20 years ago and he already had a load of people that despised him.


But we kept trying to tell them.
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