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Moderna Develops a Vaccine to the South African COVID Variant

Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41066 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:45 pm
They Made it in 30 Days

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Moderna Inc. MRNA -3.58% said Wednesday it has made the initial batch of doses of a new Covid-19 vaccine designed to better protect people against a new strain of the coronavirus that has shown some resistance to the company’s original vaccine.

The Cambridge, Mass., company said it shipped the new shots to the National Institutes of Health to conduct the first human study of the variant vaccine, which could start within weeks.



Watching an interview with the CEO right now. He considers COVID the new flu. Says it will be with us for a long time.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14130 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:47 pm to
This tells me two things possibly:

1. These fast vaccines aren't worth a shite and a big money grab.
2. They've been able to make vaccines fast for all this time and chose not to for some political or backroom deal issue.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17918 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:52 pm to
Why anyone would trust these rushed vaccines I have no idea. I guess if you’re extremely vulnerable you have to make your own risk assessment but for anyone not pretty old or with respiratory problems it doesn’t make sense to me why they’d take it.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:53 pm to
What about the Malta and Corsica strains huh?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:54 pm to
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Says it will be with us for a long time.
Right, so WTF are we doing with these insane lockdowns and mandates for low/no risk citizens? Herd immunity is inevitable.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18054 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:55 pm to
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South African COVID Variant

Racist
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:01 pm to
Pass
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43979 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:04 pm to
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This tells me two things possibly:

1. These fast vaccines aren't worth a shite and a big money grab.
2. They've been able to make vaccines fast for all this time and chose not to for some political or backroom deal issue.

3. Pharmaceutical companies/the gov/someone knew about this virus before 2019/2020 and were thus already prepared to make a heap of money off of it.

Regardless, I’ll still be sittin’ out these vaccines for awhile.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:04 pm to
And so begins the "endless vaccine" era. They will tell you to get vaccinated all the time to keep up with variants and because immunity is short lived.

Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7709 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:15 pm to
Can't call it the South African Covid. What we gonna call it?
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24597 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:18 pm to
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2. They've been able to make vaccines fast for all this time and chose not to for some political or backroom deal issue.


^
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
5902 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:25 pm to
For RNA vaccines, it's a 1 base change. We can chase every mutant at will.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:49 pm to
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This tells me two things possibly:


I have no doubt they will be correct. Because everyone here tootsie understands these tremendously useful and easily changed mrna vaccines.

quote:

These fast vaccines aren't worth a shite and a big money grab


Wow. This surprises me. So having a vaccine that grants 95 percent protection from being a symptomatic viral Irvin is useless.

And having a 99 percent lower rate of death is nothing. That means that for every 100 people that would die currently, only one would die.

Useless. Totally. Total money grab.

Reducing the death and hospitalization rates by practically 99 percent is worthless, correct?

quote:

They've been able to make vaccines fast for all this time and chose not to for some political or backroom deal issue.


Nope. Not how it happened. They made the first vaccine in about 30 days.

This one they made equally as quickly. This is the benefit of these mrna vaccines.

So the deal about getting it out was the clinical trials to prove safety.

As far as these go, they might be be able to be piggybacked on the current eula or at least not need a whole new 3 phase Clinical trial.

That's if these are even necessary.

So both your assumptions are wrong.

This is a brand new technology that want available before. It allows us to make vaccines quickly and easily and allows us to tweak it if they mutate.

This is actually amazing news.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64587 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:51 pm to
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South African COVID Variant


Racist


Which way?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:53 pm to
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Says it will be with us for a long time.


Let me see.

If people are 95 protected from being infected, how long do you think it will be till we reach herd immunity?

It won't be as long.

Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

And so begins the "endless vaccine" era. They will tell you to get vaccinated all the time to keep up with variants and because immunity is short lived.


So, because technically we don't know how long the protection from the vaccine last, and some morons go on the TV and say all we don't know how long the protection will last so you will probably need to be vaccinated every 3 months you believe him?

The morons you see on TV are just selling fear.

I thought the vaccine would be out by the end of the year. I suggested it would be very good. And I believe the protection will be quite good against the variants out there.

And preliminary data supports these assessments for Moderna and Pfizer.

Prelim days also suggests the protection granted by these vaccines are longer than the fear spreading journalists hope.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Wow. This surprises me. So having a vaccine that grants 95 percent protection from being a symptomatic viral Irvin is useless.

And having a 99 percent lower rate of death is nothing. That means that for every 100 people that would die currently, only one would die.

Useless. Totally. Total money grab.


Ivermectin

And you don't need an injection. You don't risk letting Bill Gates inject you with sterility drugs. You don't risk being injected with cancer causing substances.

The choice is obvious.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3684 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 6:36 pm to
I can picture in the future folk's grandchildren being born with multiple toes and ears growing out of their butt holes.

This RNA vaccine shite reminds me of the flipper-limb kids in the 50's.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 6:38 pm to
Democrats and China created it in a joint venture to get back at Trump.

The WHO condones it.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 2/24/21 at 6:42 pm to
It could actually be longer. No one knows how long the vaccine lasts, and even the Moderna vaccine is 94% effective only against symptoms. There’s no way to know if you can still carry and spread. That’s why the WHO is telling the vaccinated to continue to wear masks, distance, etc... That 94% efficacy number also drops as you get older, which is the majority of folks getting vaccinated right now..
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