re: MN Cop kills man! Should be charged with Manslaughter or Negligent Homicide

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How many times you think this officer spent time at the shooting range? enough to know whether firing a taser or her service weapon?

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You realize this is a separate issue from why she was even in the position of making the mistake, right?

Why is it impossible for people to simply acknowledge that in almost EVERY ONE of these police shooting cases, an officer was confronted with a suspect that resisted arrest in some way? Think of all the high profile cases like this over the past few years, and try and think of one that does not have this same attribute.

And before it gets asked, does resisting alone make it ok to kill a suspect.

No, of course not...depending on what they are doing while resisting obviously.

But once you resist as a suspect, you have now started a potentially life or death struggle with an armed person that has the authority to kill you. That is NEVER a good idea, and most people that have even an ounce of self preservation in themselves knows this and acts accordingly.

Hell...it's not like there are not REAL cases of bad police shoots or brutality to champion, you know. Why continue to back these absolutely horrendous examples?

I would love to see a city where boudinbrain, mcgrath, whiznot, BigScrubTX, Sugar71 etc..., were in charge of policing and training

What a complete shitshow and disaster it would be. They have their beloved ALL BLUE State / City / PD and its associated diversity force, and look what happened in MN !

You guys are some clowns, enjoy the crash you useful idiots.

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What should be the charges in the shooting death of Ashli Babbit?

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I hope you’re not expecting a consistent, reasoned answer from a lib over this question...

Funny how quickly libs change stances about how punitive justice is bad and it should be about rehabilitation and about the likelihood of them reoffending to suddenly thirsting for vengeance.

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They SHOULD be, but they ARE not.

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Correct. But this applies to the entire state. I wish conservatives who cry for small Government will realize that the ones coming for your guns are the very ill trained cops that you lick the boots of.


The state is the enemy to the people. And that means the entire state

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Yes i do. You do realize there was another person in the vehicle as well? Shooting into a car could have killed
the other passenger as well.

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Can you point where I excused this officer's actions in total?

What I am saying, is that regardless of what the officer did or did not do, the one thing which seems to remain consistent across nearly ALL of these shootings is that the suspect decided they simply WOULD NOT BE ARRESTED.

As if that was up to the suspect to decide they'll be arrested like Kurt Russell playing Wyatt Earp in Tombstone, telling Behan he wasn't going to let him arrest them after the OK Corral.

The reason you never hear about most encounters, even ones where officers acted poorly, is because the suspect did not feel the need to start wrestling around with armed LEOs putting them in the position of HAVING to make a life or death decision based on the life or death situation they were placed in by the suspect.

Unless and until people start addressing this issue first, I simply am uninterested in looking into these cases beyond that glaring similarity. Because I know that in the handful of times when I've had encounters with LEOS, even those that were unpleasant, the fact that I was respectful and not being aggressive or attempting to thwart what they were doing is why I left the scene with a warning or a ticket, and not dead on the side of the road. Searching for reasons other than this is a waste of everyone's time, and a recipe for continued needless deaths.

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It may not meet the legal deginition of murder

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It's clearly not murder. Hell, use of lethal force may have even been justifiable.

It will be impossible for her to get around the accidental shooting, though.

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Saying Oops My Bad, I meant to grab my taser is no defence in this case.

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I agree that will be a huge obstacle at her trial, but typically less than lethal force has to be justified as well. We'll see what the lawyers do with it, but I suspect she pleads to a lesser charge.

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You know police officers aren't supposed to kill people who resist arrest, right?

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He wasnt "just resisting". He had expired tags which caused the traffic stop. They ran his license, like they do with everybody. He had an outstanding warrant for gross misdemeanor carrying a pistol without a permit and misdemeanor fleeing police.

I mean he did everything wrong. Did the cop frick up? Yeah. She did. But don't put yourself in that situation. So much of this is avoidable.

Buy fricking inspection stickers. Show up to fricking court. Don't run from the cops. This isn't rocket science.

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Buy fricking inspection stickers. Show up to fricking court. Don't run from the cops. This isn't rocket science.

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None of those things carry a death sentence, completely ignoring that this person you're so easily dismissing has rights to a fair trial.

I know someone who's not dead who did something criminal, though.