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re: Minneapolis shooter confessed he was ‘tired of being trans’

Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:11 am to
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:11 am to
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His psychosis predated the trans stuff by a while.


Do you think his mother and the State Govt led by Tampon Tim encouraging the gender confusion and the transitioning agenda may have had something to do with it?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:11 am to
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His mental issues pre-date, and supersede, the trans stuff.



I can see different sides to this

If true, that just shows that trans can only exist in mentally ill people

and/or

He was "trans" the whole time and was late to come out as such

and/or

His mom ignored his other mental issues and was hoping pushing him to be trans would solve it all

Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:11 am to
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The petition noted that Westman “identifies as a female and wants her name to reflect that identification.”

But, five years later, he seemed to have shrunk away from his new identity, scribbling on another page of the notebook “I don’t want to dress girly all the time but I guess sometimes I really like it. I know I am not a woman but I definitely don’t feel like a man.”


These people are mentally ill. They need help, not affirmation of their delusion.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:12 am to
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“I can’t cut my hair now as it would be embarrassing defeat


That’s why they won’t back down from their stances on the gay tranny stuff. They can never be wrong.

Ever.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:12 am to
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Do you think his mother and the State Govt led by Tampon Tim encouraging the gender confusion and the transitioning agenda may have had something to do with it?

No. He was clearly born broken, but became obsessed (as in forming his personal identify of himself) with mass shootings after he was exposed to Sandy Hook.

So that would make him, what, 10?

From that point forward his sense of self was directly associated with mass killings. It consumed his self identity.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:12 am to
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Do you think his mother and the State Govt led by Tampon Tim encouraging the gender confusion and the transitioning agenda may have had something to do with it?



Has a lot to do with it. The shooter admitting that cutting his hair would feel like defeat shows how much brainwashing he was a victim of.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:13 am to
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Do you think his mother and the State Govt led by Tampon Tim encouraging the gender confusion and the transitioning agenda may have had something to do with it?


I'm no psychologist, but I'd say yes. Absolutely.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:13 am to
Well they wanted to encourage trans to prevent trans kids from killing themselves……..congrats?

But seriously, who couldn’t see the potential problem with this? Mentally unstable people that we gave estrogen to. Estrogen isn’t exactly known for curing mental illness.

Hey “The Left”, there are insane people out there and you can’t just hug it out of em. Telling insane people that their insanity is normal does not make them normal.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:13 am to
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His mental issues pre-date, and supersede, the trans stuff.

Nothing prevented psychological care for the REAL problem


Did he commit the shooting before or after being a tranny?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:13 am to
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His mom ignored his other mental issues

It appears he hid them, which is the scary part.

I mean the "mass shooting" psychosis. He hid that for 13-ish years
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:14 am to
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From that point forward his sense of self was directly associated with mass killings. It consumed his self identity.



How can that be true when he also made trans his identity?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:15 am to
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It appears he hid them, which is the scary part.



Sociopaths are good at hiding to a point. I doubt he hid them as well as you think he did but instead his mom buried the thought of it because she didn't want to accept the fact that he was mentally ill. Encouraging him to become trans, which is now widely accepted and encouraged, was a much easier path for her.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11040 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:16 am to
Wow. Thats pretty powerful, and informative.

These parents try to be supportive, but might be doing more harm than good. Obviously in this case.

Just like demonizing parents for refusing to support trans as teens is not helpful. Demonizing the parents for being supportive does not make for a rational conversation about how to properly deal with this….

The Internet supersedes parental influence as far as the teenage mind is concerned.

Young people have so many hormones and emotional changes that things seem insurmountable.

Another major teen problem is bullying and emotional blackmail. Suicides are up.

The overall issue is that teen embarrassment or pain is leading to suicide instead of personal growth.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:16 am to
The left's popularized idea that trans is normal and should be affirmed in children to avoid depression and violent/suicidal behavior is one of the greatest lies ever told.

I suspect Westman, like most trans people, believed living as a woman would make him feel more accepted and more emotionally stable. I suspect his uber liberal mother believed this as well. When that stability in the opposite gender doesn't come, and the irreversible effects of transitioning hit home, things only get worse.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59294 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:16 am to
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Did he commit the shooting before or after being a tranny?



How long did he take hormones without shooting anyone?

The mental illness came first. Being trans didn't cause the shooting; the mental illness that resulted in him transitioning also resulted in him shooting children.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:17 am to
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This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7741 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:17 am to
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He was clearly born broken, but became obsessed


yes- and with the current political climate he was told he was normal and do deal with it by becoming a women.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:18 am to
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Being trans didn't cause the shooting; the mental illness that resulted in him transitioning also resulted in him shooting children.


What a statement

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467277 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:18 am to
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How can that be true when he also made trans his identity?


I don't think there is any evidence that trans became his entire identity

I mean your OP shows it was just a temporary phase and likely a symptom of his extreme psychosis.

That's why focusing on the trans stuff for THIS example probably isn't fruitful.

Now the Nashville shooter? That one has plenty of evidence that the trans stuff directly played a role in the evil/tragedy. Just like all the other examples where the violence is directly related to abuse/bullying/judgment.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:18 am to
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It appears he hid them, which is the scary part.


As a father, I'll die on this hill. There's no way he hid this level of mental illness from a parent that was half-way worth a shite.
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