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re: Milwaukee election worker under investigation for ballot fraud
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:10 pm to GoldenGuy
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:10 pm to GoldenGuy
quote:Perhaps.
Sounds like someone requested military ballots (typically a GOP group, I would think), and the official just sent them without confirming the address or confirming a military background.quote:
Yes, this is correct. That’s because it was a sting operation to catch said official.
But the question remains, “Did they catch fraud, or did they catch incompetence?”
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:03 pm
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:13 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
If this is just laziness, how does it benefit one party more than the other?
If there is a verification process that is supposed to take place before the ballot is sent out, then what she did is fraud. It's her freaking job. And one of the most important one's at that. It's not like putting a cheeseburger in a bag that is supposed to be a hamburger. That's lazy.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:19 pm to Lg
quote:I understand the sentiment, but that is NOT “election fraud” under Wisc. Stat. sec 12.13.
If there is a verification process that is supposed to take place before the ballot is sent out, then what she did is fraud.
It is only “fraud” if there is intent or (in some cases) “willful neglect.”
This is just another example of the “extremism” that I described a few days ago. For an extremist, this MUST be fraud by a Dem, and we must be COMPLETELY unwilling to even CONSIDER the possibility that it might be mere incompetence. Any suggestion to the contrary MUST be discarded.
It is crazy.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:26 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
but that is NOT “election fraud” under Wisc. Stat. sec 12.13.
7. In the course of the person's official duties or on account of the person's official position, intentionally violate or intentionally cause any other person to violate any provision of chs. 5 to 12 for which no other penalty is expressly prescribed.
Seems like she is dangerously close to this one.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:29 pm to texridder
quote:
Of course, no Repub would ever actually do anything so heinous as this.
What a crock of crap.
You say that as if everyone from the right will defend fraud or lying or whatever from a Repub no matter what. Believe it or not, that is not the case for most of us. Fraud is fraud is fraud. I don't care if they are Rep or Dem, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:29 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
It is crazy.
Given your performance on this board today, I wold refrain from using the word "crazy" when describing anyone other than AggieHank.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:30 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
This is just another example of the “extremism” that I described a few days ago. For an extremist, this MUST be fraud by a Dem, and we must be COMPLETELY unwilling to even CONSIDER the possibility that it might be mere incompetence. It is crazy.
It's not extreme to think somebody, especially somebody that is an election official, should do her job with utmost integrity. McDonald's workers can be incompetent all they want. Somebody handling election ballots, not so much.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:31 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
AggieHank86
You're obviously in the midst of some sort of breakdown judging by your posts today(yes, they're dumber than normal).
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:32 pm to texridder
quote:
Of course, no Repub would ever actually do anything so heinous as this.
What a crock of crap.
Or maybe the democrat sent them to the republican as a set up.
Two can play this game.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:34 pm to Gifman
quote:
You're obviously in the midst of some sort of breakdown judging by your posts today(yes, they're dumber than normal).
Hell I hope he keeps posting.
He totally destroyed any illusion of integrity he thought he projected.
Today's performance removed all doubt: AggieHank is the biggest liar on this board, bar none.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:35 pm to Gifman
quote:So, still an order of magnitude smarter than anything you have ever posted? OK
You're obviously in the midst of some sort of breakdown judging by your posts today (yes, they're dumber than normal).
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:36 pm to oogabooga68
quote:
AggieHank is the biggest liar on this board, bar none.
Cot damn, that is a big ask.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:36 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
So, still an order of magnitude smarter than anything you have ever posted?
The expected snarky, Narcissistic response....
Keep going, you lying piece of excrement.....
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:37 pm to BuckyCheese
Celticdog said yesterday, that election fraud is a made up term and does not exist.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:37 pm to TDTOM
No, it's simply as true as saying "water is wet".
His performance today shredded any microscopic amount of integrity he had remaining....
His performance today shredded any microscopic amount of integrity he had remaining....
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:38 pm to BugAC
CelticDog can't define "woman", so...
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:38 pm to BugAC
quote:
Celticdog said yesterday, that election fraud is a made up term and does not exist.
Celticdog is undoubtedly the dumbest fricker on this board.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:39 pm to BuckyCheese
Anyone that doesn’t believe in fraud is just lying. They want their side to win no matter what.
Speaking of fraud. I got two letters for the previous couple that lived at my house showing they hadn’t voted in the last 4 elections. Without voter ID I could vote for them. They are probably dead and still registered at my current address.
Speaking of fraud. I got two letters for the previous couple that lived at my house showing they hadn’t voted in the last 4 elections. Without voter ID I could vote for them. They are probably dead and still registered at my current address.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:39 pm to BugAC
quote:If CD said that (which I doubt), he is mistaken. Wisc. Stat. sec 12.13 outlines the elements of “election fraud” in that state, in great detail.
Celticdog said yesterday, that election fraud is a made up term and does not exist.
Perhaps you can link the post?
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:39 pm to texridder
quote:You missed the point. Zapata sent these ballots to a republican in order to demonstrate that three fictions people could receive ballots at a totally unrelated address. Zapata, the sender and requester, is not a politician. She was demonstrating to a republican how easy it is to cheat in Wisconsin.
Of course, no Repub would ever actually do anything so heinous as this.
What a crock of crap
quote:
Asked for additional details, Woodall-Vogg said Zapata “went on the public facing MyVote website” to request the ballots, noting that service members in the military do not have to provide photo identification under Wisconsin law.
“She was pointing out that you can go on to the public system, make up a person and request a ballot,” said Woodall-Vogg. She said that Zapata then “sent it to a state legislative member” in order to “alert them to this vulnerability.”
But Johnson said Zapata’s motive doesn’t matter to him.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:44 pm
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