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re: Military Recruiting shortfalls

Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:53 am to
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The rest I'll buy, and it's completely idiotic.


Probably for the light infantry components of the Army and USMC and for the Special Ops folks of all branches of service, these new realities will have less of an impact.

Also, for the exceptionally talented light infantry warfighter with a proven record in a high op-tempo combat organization, these new realities probably will have no impact, IMHO.

But the "no or slight impact" group is a very small percentage of the entire Active Duty force.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 9:59 am
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:55 am to
I hate to say it, but frick them. They abandoned us not the other way around.

This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:56 am to
For sure. I've been out for about 10 years now, and even then, the wokeness was just a PowerPoint we had to say we looked at and signed a roster. I can't imagine that's changed much.
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
55324 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:04 am to
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For sure. I've been out for about 10 years now, and even then, the wokeness was just a PowerPoint we had to say we looked at and signed a roster. I can't imagine that's changed much.


I agree.

Also, you were responsible for a group of Marines, you did it well, and that's how you earned your pay. Leaders in today's military know that we have Trannys in the service. As such, having a Power Point class on how these people want to be addressed makes sense, purely from a "situational awareness" perspective.

If I'm a troop leader and I give a class on how to properly address a Tranny servicemember, I'm not condoning or advocating Trannys in the service. All I'm doing is trying to teach my people how to avoid forcing ME to deal with an annoying EO complaint in my unit. Time well-spent, say I, if it saves MY time by avoiding a stupid EO complaint from some Tranny servicemember because somebody in my unit used the wrong Pronoun.

But, yeah, it's probably just another Power Point class.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17966 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:12 am to
Cue the draft.
Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:18 am to
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Cue the draft.
Equality is a bitch.
Equity would mean men get to sit out the next world war.

Everyone loves equity now, right?
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 10:19 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:51 am to
Yep. My point was mostly that it's likely overblown. I've been working with the military in some capacity since I separated, so I'm not completely isolated from it. Never really noticed a huge shift there. But, like you said, it might be mostly the units I was in and have supported.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:52 am to
Young people won't even take "easy" jobs at &15-20/hour, they're sure as shite not going to join the military and really have to work.

ETA--if I were a young man, I'd enlist and do 20+ years just like I did in 1995. I loved it.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7253 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:54 am to
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So discourage then knowing serves. Really intelligent thought


Are you stupid or something?
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:01 am to
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Lol at not serving your country over a vaccine.


They want to serve but our big pharma military leaders won’t let them until they get an mRNA shot. How sick is that not letting patriots serve their country? Very sick.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:12 am to
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They want to serve but our big pharma military leaders won’t let them until they get an mRNA shot. How sick is that not letting patriots serve their country? Very sick.


Requiring recruits to get shots isn't new. I'd rather get 100 flu shots in a row than a peanut butter shot followed by the sand pit.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13624 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:24 am to
I don’t know why any straight, white male would join the military.

They hate you. And view you as the problem with America.

Let’s see how this military does without us.

Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:25 am to
This should help.

quote:

Up to 40,000 Army National Guard soldiers across the country — or about 13% of the force — have not yet gotten the mandated COVID-19 vaccine, and as the deadline for shots looms, at least 14,000 of them have flatly refused and could be forced out of the service.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:35 am to
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I believe people are incorrectly labeling this as a political divide causing poor recruiting numbers.

It's purely a generational issue. These lazy arse young people don't want to work ANYWHERE, much less the military that requires actual work and sacrifice.



There is no shortage of interested candidates. The problem is they are either fat and/or stupid. Most cant run a mile. Some have a B average in High School and make a 18 on the ASVAB. Its the pool of candidates not politics.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:39 am to
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require women to register for a military draft


Good

Now make it impossible to vote unless you're registered for the draft
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:42 am to
Trust me, I know. I was voluntold by USAREC to do a 3 year recruiting detail. U had to deal with that 6 days a week for 3 years.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:43 am to
The southern US Army installations were named after Confederate generals for recruiting reasons. They wanted to make the service more attractive to southerners.

The north didn’t have a martial tradition, it wasn’t part of their culture, and after the civil war, few southern men were interested in serving in the US Army. Together, this lead to manpower shortfalls.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:48 am to
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There is no shortage of interested candidates. The problem is they are either fat and/or stupid. Most cant run a mile. Some have a B average in High School and make a 18 on the ASVAB. Its the pool of candidates not politics.


It was always fun to hear old dudes who never served tell us how they'd have gone into "the Corps" if it wasn't for their knee or their bone spurs. The next generation's Marines will get to listen to old dudes tell them how they'd have gone into "the Corps" if it wasn't for that covid shot.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:50 am to
But muh flat feet!
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