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re: Military falling short of it's recruiting goals. Why?

Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:28 am to
Posted by snakanator
Member since Sep 2010
634 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:28 am to
This. Just look around the next time you fly SW. Damn…
Posted by bleedpg
Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
Member since Dec 2006
1116 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:32 am to
Well they kicked out people because of mandatory vaccinations and now they are too woke.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12143 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:46 am to
Military told us with their actions they didn’t want straight while men.

So now there is a shortage.

Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:51 am to
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This is not a mistake = this is a feature = to obtain the ultimate agenda of a compliant military arm devoted to 'progressive' ideals of maximum protection of the oligarchy from any common folk who try to maintain outdated ideas of human civilization.


Aka / White conservatives who just want to be left the frick alone by govt
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34024 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:58 am to
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70 Percent talk about Woke Stuff

10 Percent talk about how they can't make it, bad health, etc.

and 10 Percent would say "Why join, there are no wars right now and I can make 80 grand working for the oil company offshore or with a trucking gig. I'd be crazy to joing".


They fear the woke shite. They know (and live) cancel culture. It is a MAJOR impediment right now.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98494 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:01 am to
quote:

The next President needs to clean out the entire flag ranks in every service. And that's just for starters


And beg any able former military that separated in late 90s/early 2000s to come back to replace them
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15396 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:06 am to
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They've turned the military into a social experiment.


It takes a special kind of man to join the military.

That special kind of man wants no part of mandatory vaccinations, maternity flight suits and drag queen story hour.

So he’s just not signing up.

For extra fun, current and former military are now on government watch lists for believing in radical things like individual freedoms and that they can vote for whoever they want.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:09 am to
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mandatory vaccinations


small pox
cholera
typhus

ask a veteran
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57150 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:12 am to
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Military told us with their actions they didn’t want straight while men and that America-first Patriots are the enemy.

So now there is a shortage.


FIFY
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16338 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:23 am to
Wouldn't surprise me to know that military taking orders from democrats to enlist only democrats. How would they know? Litmus test? Therefore many are failing the test and the military may have to resort to illegals and or chineses.
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Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:27 am to
I joined in 05 and got out in 2017. Once Iraq and Afghanistan went from war zones to occupation areas, the mission of the military changed dramatically

We went from how to develop the most effective ways to kill the enemy, to how inclusive we can be.

That’s 100% the reason I got out
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50307 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:38 am to
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10 Percent talk about Woke Stuff



Leftists always vastly underestimate the negative effect of wokeness.
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
Texas
Member since Jul 2022
249 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:47 am to
Used to have such a lifelong sense of admiration and respect for the armed forces, and the very sight of a uniform. All that ended when they went homo. And now they've even gone tranny, with an added dollop of demented wokeness. Absolutely impossible for me to have anything but revulsion now towards this military at this point.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17446 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:57 am to
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Myself and all my vet buddies have said we will discourage our kids from joining.


As a Vet I get asked if I would recommend the services and if they have half a brain I discourage them as well.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:00 am to
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Why?

The idiots in charge
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15036 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:15 am to
If a recession or heaven forbid recession starts the armed forces recruiting offices will be filled with kids wanting the gig.

With 25 dollar salaries at fast food, why go now, march around, not have a say where you live, etc.

In this case I say again, per Carville "It's the economy, stupid".
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2126 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:17 am to
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They implemented a new system called genesis. It runs your whole medical history so you’re not able to lie anymore. Waivers also take forever


Had this been in place 35 years ago I wouldn’t have been able to serve. I had childhood asthma among other things which would have disqualified me. I lied to the army and served without issue whatsoever.

I was a sickly kid but completely healthy by the time I was 18. I think this is probably disqualifying 10% of the folks that would have otherwise made it in.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:37 am to
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multiple generations of lies.
Gulf of Tonkin
Izrl attack on our warships
Ff attacks on our own people
Rr, okc, waco
no wmd coverup in Iraq.
no al quaida in Iraq until after we got there.
Izrl 9 11.
Afghanistan for 20 years.
Killing qaddafi for French billionaires , oil companies and global banks
Mercenary armies underthe guise of Arab spring, ibya, Syria, Egypt, Sudan
Led to Benazir cover up, quiet arrest of Gen Ham
Ukrainian election interference in '14 which led to today
and now an African command (???been there for decades)
boku harem.
to say nothing of Putin


Fify
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:55 am to
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They've alienated their largest Soldier base with all of the diversity and inclusion BS...


It would be remiss not to point out and give just deserts to one of the dubious foundational "cornerstones" that helped initiate and incite the all-out assault that has been in the works against the military - at least since 1950.

The study The Authoritarian Personality now in its 77th year and still doing work.

Max Horkheimer (the acknowledged "Father of Sensitivity Training") who wrote the Foreword to the study.

In his "Foreword" to the study which was launched to ferret out, identify, and expose anyone who harbored tendencies toward "fascism," he makes it clear what exactly was the prime target among the investigation's "many" targets.

From his Foreword:

- And what within the individual organism responds to certain stimuli in our culture with attitudes and acts of destructive aggression? But an aroused conscience is not enough if it does not stimulate a systematic search for an answer.

- It (the study) demonstrates that there is a close correlation between a number of deeprooted personality traits, and overt prejudice.

- The study has also succeeded in producing an instrument for measuring these traits among various strata of the population.

- The study considers the connection between personality traits and prejudice among war veterans.

Here the investigators were able to examine the impact of the war experience, with its complex anxieties and tensions, as an added factor of that or significance affecting tens of millions of people.

- Once we understand, for example, how the war experience may in some cases have strengthened personality traits predisposed to group hatred, the educational remedies may follow logically.

- Our aim is not merely to describe prejudice but to explain it in order to help in its eradication. That is the challenge we would meet.

Eradication means re-education, scientifically planned on the basis of understanding scientifically arrived at.

And education in a strict sense is by its nature personal and psychological.

- A search for the truth conducted in accordance with the best techniques of the contemporary social sciences was our sole aim.

The above is just a small sample, but it's to be remembered that most of our institutions, to include academia and the military, accepted this study into their ranks, so after 77 years it's become interwoven into the nation's fabric.

Even though contrary to what is purported in Horkheimer's Foreword, that study was not done in accordance with scientific method "best practices."

The term "trainwreck" is better applied to it.

Yet, obviously when it first appeared, it was for the most part taken at face value, with few or no questions asked.

Only with the advent of alternate media did the leading questions begin - 40 years too late.










Posted by BamaFan365
Member since Sep 2011
2347 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:22 am to
Every veteran and retired military person I know are no longer encouraging guys to join. We're pretty much doing the opposite
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