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re: Michigan Senate Debate just posted: Rogers v El-Sayed

Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
12197 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:01 pm to
Lmao Rogers pretty much called him a Muslim Terrorist for 45 mins straight. At least Abdul is concerned with helping the people of Michigan. All Rogers cares about is lining his pockets.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3505 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:01 pm to
You sound like every other never trumper. Concern troll much? You're just a Democrat in sheep's clothing. Much like the politicians you're pulling for.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12822 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Rogers sounded like every other republican when it comes to taking about El-Sayed, just blatant Islamophobic attacks. He didn’t take about any policies that would actually help Michiganders.


Agreed. Rogers didn't land any punches with people who are undecided.

If you won't vote for a Muslim, you've already heard El-Sayed's name...what else do you need?
This post was edited on 10/8/26 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:10 pm to
Islamaphobic? Why does that even exist?

Is there amishphobia? Seventhdayphobia? Perhaps people have an irrational fear or coptics? Copticphobia?

I wonder what aspect of the current and historical Islam would have people afraid of it?

Absolutely unjustified concern about Islam. It's a very peaceful religion. Historically and in its own book and hadiths. For sure.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
12197 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:15 pm to
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I wonder what aspect of the current and historical Islam would have people afraid of it?


Hilarious for you say what historical relevance people would have to be afraid of Islam, when Christians had crusades for hundreds of years spreading their Christianity across the globe. Yet you choose to focus on a subset of radical groups that don’t even represent .0005 percent of the 2 billion Muslims in the world.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4185 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:15 pm to
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Lmao Rogers pretty much called him a Muslim Terrorist for 45 mins straight. At least Abdul is concerned with helping the people of Michigan. All Rogers cares about is lining his pockets.


More boring canned talking points.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4185 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:20 pm to
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Lolol “insecure”

That’s a first for me!! I bet you’re just smarter than literally everyone else and just see something that they haven’t and don’t. Anyhoo……


The problem with your claim that you’re just a an innocent fella who’s peacefully and politely here only to seek knowledge - the problem with that notion is that your history bears out otherwise, it dictates that I not take your claim seriously. No, I’m not claiming to have a different or “better” air about me, so no need to take off on that tangent.


You're boring and have weird stalker energy and I have no desire to engage with you at all, nor do I have any thoughts about you as a poster other than you're being deeply weird at the moment. Sorry my comment about dumb repetitive jokes, which wasn't even aimed at you in particular, triggered you so much.
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:24 pm to
This one hits home for me and I'll avoid getting fired up. My family is in this country because of what the ottomans did in southern Europe.

Why do you think Bosnia is a Muslim country? Convert or die

Christianity did not spread via the sword. The entire history of the Muslim expansion is rooted in violence. Nearly all of it. There are specific hadiths regarding the treatment of non Muslims

Not going to touch your infantile understanding of the crusades.

Just curious, why does the dome of the rock exist when Islam wasn't even a thing in biblical history? How on earth does a religion from 610 AD, have so much control over a old city of jews and Christians?

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
38120 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:27 pm to
Yeah yeah. After one or two relatively brief exchanges, that’s what you’ve got. Go on then, absolutely no problem here, and I’ll even refrain from commenting any further on what’s more likely behind this effort to shut off further discourse. No objection.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
8393 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:32 pm to
Bottom line, Islamophobia is not the issue. Muslims by and large do not assimilate, they are anti-Semitic, fascistic, misogynistic, do not respect women's rights, do you want me to go on?

Under no circumstance should a Muslim in the United States have an elected office.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
13649 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:39 pm to
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Rogers sounded like every other republican when it comes to taking about El-Sayed, just blatant Islamophobic attacks. He didn’t talk about any policies that would actually help Michiganders, or about how Trumps policies have hurt them.


just obvious lies
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8658 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:41 pm to
Should be an easy win for el-sayed.

Michigan voters dont care about al-queda, israel, Muslim brotherhood etc. They care about policy that will make their lives better
This post was edited on 10/8/26 at 10:42 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12822 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:43 pm to
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I'd appreciate it if you offered your take on how it actually went if you do watch it.


Finished. Found an online poll...



Of the hundreds of comments I scrolled through on YouTube, I only saw 5 comments that weren't for El-Sayed. Those were all critical of Medicare for All. Maybe I missed it, but I saw ZERO comments that suggested Rogers won...and NewsNation viewers tend to be centrist.

As for content, Rogers was 90% attack of El-Sayed. In addition to the Muzzies are a security risk, he frequently accused El-Sayed of being a phony. He used the line "he's not even a real doctor line" a couple of times. Kinda backfired though because the moderator would then say, "You're response DOCTOR El-Sayed." I don't think it was moderator bias...what was he going to call someone with an M.D. and a PhD..."MISTER El-Sayed?"

Rogers was good on projecting his image as a tough on security (FBI agent).and national defense background.

El-Sayed probably spent 15% of his time attacking Rogers for being beholden to corporate donors and being more concerned about sending money to foreign countries than spending that money at home. He focused mostly on economics.

Stylistically, El-Sayed was very smooth. Rogers was also good. Both seem really well prepared. Neither of them hesitated in what they were saying. Impressive by both.

Bottom line. Rogers LOOKED the part better. IF a voter was open to voting for a Muslim, El-Sayed probably picked up way more votes because he really stayed on message with economic issues.

I think Kalshi will move 2-5 points higher for El-Sayed after tonight.
This post was edited on 10/8/26 at 11:00 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
101277 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:43 pm to
Which policy is going to make thier lives better?
Posted by BamaAggiemom
Member since Aug 2019
577 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:47 pm to
Have you ever been to Greece? Ask the Greeks what they think about Muslims. They've had a very long history with Muslims and it wasn't pretty.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20221 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:50 pm to
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At least Abdul is concerned with helping the people of Michigan.



Yeah, people with room temperature IQ's buy into the antisemitic little shite's grift. The modern Left everyone...
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:51 pm to
That's interesting, because Michigan is ran by Democrats and all the states gaining population because of lifestyle issues are red states.

12 of the last 16 at the federal level up to 2024 were Democrats in control.

The biggest LOL that Democrats have is their bitching about healthcare, which is their signature policy with the ACA since, at least 50-60 years?
Yet, they try to pin the healthcare issues in the country on republicans?

They can't even get Medicaid for all up and running in a new England state of under a million because of cost, so they abandoned it. But they want it for 350 million people including illegals?

Asinine.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12822 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:53 pm to
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Should be an easy win for el-sayed.

Michigan voters dont care about al-queda, israel, Muslim brotherhood etc. They care about policy that will make their lives better


Agree. Of course, it's all about turn out, but I can't imagine Rogers picking up many independent voters he hadn't already won.

El-Sayed might have lost a few voters when he refused to say that Iran was more of a threat than Israel. El-Sayed said that Israel was a threat to the US because it might drag us into more wars. People who were offended probably weren't going to vote for El-Sayed anyway.
Posted by BamaAggiemom
Member since Aug 2019
577 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:55 pm to
When I was in Greece, it was interesting hearing her take on Muslims. She does not like them.
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 10:56 pm to
Nope. But the grandma from my big fat Greek wedding is pretty representative of my views. If you've seen that movie.

The west not responding to the fall of Constantinople is probably one of the sadder events in western civ history. Unforgivable.

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