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re: Michigan 164,568 double ballots

Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Is the Voter ID identifying one specific voter
if not, maybe they shouldn't call it voter identification.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:56 pm to
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If there is a husband and wife living at the same address, there would be two votes for that address. If there is a third person over 18 there, there would be three votes with that address. There are four registered voters at my address.


There is One Voter ID that voted 29 times from multiple addresses. What you just posted has nothing to do with the one voter ID issue.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:58 pm to
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If there is a husband and wife living at the same address, there would be two votes for that address. If there is a third person over 18 there, there would be three votes with that address. There are four registered voters at my address.


Yeah but you each would have a different voter ID. These are all the same ID from multiple addresses.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2934 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I don't think so (assuming it's vote by mail). Michigan still has signature match. But, regardless of who's doing what, it is still prima facie evidence of illegal votes. Burden is on the state to explain it away.


There were other states in 2020 where signatures didn’t match, the votes were allowed.

There shouldn’t be a work around to showing ID. Either you have it or you don’t vote.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29700 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:59 pm to
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If there is a husband and wife living at the same address, there would be two votes for that address. If there is a third person over 18 there, there would be three votes with that address. There are four registered voters at my address.


OK, but each of you has a distinct Voter ID unique to you.

This same Voter ID is listed 29 times. That is fraud. No way around it.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28500 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

But you would have 4 Voter IDs at your address for those 4 voters. Catch up.


I see that now. Either there is some glitch in the system or this is a problem.

Either way, there will have to be an investigation into this as it suggests multiple votes assigned to a single registrant.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
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there is a husband and wife living at the same address, there would be two votes for that address. If there is a third person over 18 there, there would be three votes with that address. There are four registered voters at my address
the question here is it's the same voters id...address is explainable
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
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But you would have 4 Voter IDs at your address for those 4 voters. Catch up


Where do these posters come from? It's like they don't have basic reading comprehension
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7299 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
who cares if its a homeless center.

How has 1 voter id voted 25+ times?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14666 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:01 pm to
Yeah and he is the most intelligent poster on the board.
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2368 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Either way, there will have to be an investigation into this as it suggests multiple votes assigned to a single registrant.


It's way more than that. The analysis of the QVF shows 279,000 ballots cast from just 114,000 individual Voter IDs.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8293 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:02 pm to
1 person voted 29 times in Michigan according to Rasmussen
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16053 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:03 pm to
The fact that they caught them is nice. They can get rid of the over votes.
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
4149 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:06 pm to
This likely no different than what Democrats have always done in terms of harvesting votes from shelters and the like. Vote by mail has just made it easier. We can argue the principle behind it, which is scummy in my view, but the legality is likely there for this activity unfortunately.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476020 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:07 pm to
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if not, maybe they shouldn't call it voter identification.


I get that. This just seems too easy to unravel as fraud.

Theoretically possible, of course. Criminals commit easily-discovered crimes all the time.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2934 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:09 pm to
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The fact that they caught them is nice. They can get rid of the over votes.


Will they?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33241 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:09 pm to
any guess as to which way these votes likely went? lets see how honest you can be
Posted by sports101
Member since Aug 2014
1186 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:10 pm to
Some of those are Catholic Churches and some are apartment complexes.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:12 pm to
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This just seems too easy to unravel as fraud.
should be.

I just don't understand how it's procedurally possible. Louisiana forces me to vote at a specific precinct, that precinct has a list of all the names available and marks them off after I vote. If I go in later today they're going to know I already voted.

So in Michigan, how would one person vote in a) more than one precinct and B) multiple times at the same precinct in one day?

I hope this is just some error, but it seems like elementary level security procedures
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7972 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:14 pm to
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just don't understand how it's procedurally possible.

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
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