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re: MI Senate Leader Caught On Camera Confessing Jan 6 Riot Was Staged To Get Trump
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:44 pm to Chet Donnely
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:44 pm to Chet Donnely
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No.
Really? Because that's the totality of what you quoted.
But, okay.
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Because of your obvious belief that being a “bad” poster here is somehow a character flaw.
Depending on the definition of "bad", it absolutely can be indicative of such (but that gets more into the psyches of others than I normally care to do).
My main premise in this thread has been that the OP's title, link and the article they linked to are absolute shite because there is no "confession". The article and headline are sensationalized Q-LARP bullshite and anyone who wishes to change my mind needs only to tell me what the guy in the video confesses.
As yet no one has. No one. None. Nada. Not a soul.
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And because you clearly think that you are somehow the appropriate judge of “good” and “bad” posting.
Does it bother you that I challenge others? That I stake out my position, prove my point and ask others to prove theirs in turn? You realize that's the point of forums like this, right?
quote:
And also because of the queer arse shite you insist on putting in every one of your posts. It’s pathetic.
So is it you're judging that I am too judging or that you don't care for my particular method of expression when judging? Or is it all of the above?
Oh, wait, on this point I honestly don't care.
I just needed something to occupy me for this last minute or two.
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:35 pm to Bard
quote:
Because that's the totality of what you quoted.
I didn’t quote you genius, I answered your stupid question.
But by all means keep staking out your position. Loser.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:20 am to IamShado
Didn’t watch the video, but he is a Republican. 80% of the republicans in DC say the election was rigged and some believe that insurrection was started by ANTIFA.
A lot of Trump voters say the say the same thing. Trump has said it as well.
He is no different than a lot of republicans
It doesn’t matter what’s on the tape. He would probably say the same thing to his voters
A lot of Trump voters say the say the same thing. Trump has said it as well.
He is no different than a lot of republicans
It doesn’t matter what’s on the tape. He would probably say the same thing to his voters
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 12:36 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:27 am to Bard
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I think it's just as close to a "confession" as Trump was "purposely trying to incite" an "insurrection" (since apparently some of the IQs around here have dipped with the temperature, hint: he didn't).
Considering Trump didn't mention an insurrection, and he specifically called for a peaceful march, how are these things equal?
Sure the gentleman in the video didn't say he knew that those things occurred, but at least those words left his mouth. The same cannot be said for Trump. In fact, the opposite came out of his mouth. A peaceful march is the opposite of an insurrection.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 8:19 am to Azkiger
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Considering Trump didn't mention an insurrection, and he specifically called for a peaceful march, how are these things equal?
They are equal because there was no confession in the video just as there was no incitement on 01/06. A confession is an admitting of one's guilt.
The word "confession" was used to sensationalize the video to make it seem far more than what it was. It took a guy making his best guess based on what he's read and seen (even admitting he was guessing) and tried to frame it as a smoking gun and posters here jumped on it as if it were.
Along that route the words "secure a Trump Impeachment" were never used in the video even though they are quoted in the article headline. Ever. The quotes infer it being part of the supposed confession but it's actually a quote from the Twitter person posting the video.
This is a manipulation of news on a blatant scale, the kind of thing we've bitched about for years yet now so many are willing to accept it when it feeds their beliefs.
I've seen confirmation bias before but the blind desperation I've seen from so many in this thread who absolutely need to believe the gentleman from Michigan in this video proved anything has been disheartening. Similarly, the blowback for daring to point out the Emperor has no clothes has been eye-opening.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 8:21 am to IamShado
I think this thing has legs...after the elaborate plan "B" the DemocRats pulled off to get Joe Biden a victory would it not be beneath them to conjure up another scenario where they paint Trump as the bad guy? If Pelosi knew about the threat before the 6th why wouldn't she want the National Guard there? She wants them now and maybe the overkill there is due to guilt from the actions she took prior.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 8:23 am to Chet Donnely
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I didn’t quote you genius, I answered your stupid question.
But by all means keep staking out your position. Loser.
All the other things you could have discussed and this was what you picked out? lulz.
You're bitching because I want people to be more critical of their sources before they post them and I want others to do more than just knee-jerk accept everything at face-value just because it aligns with their political beliefs.
Not going to happen, but thanks for the input.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:51 am to Bard
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Please find for me where he confessed anything in that video
Did he say it was planned?
Did he say McConnell knew?
Your hyperbole is noted as is your intellectually dishonest responses
ETA I’ve said nothing about confession. I can listen to what was said and make an informed decision as to what was said. Whatever words are used to describe it are just peoples descriptions
The undisputed fact is he said that it was planned and is a high ranking democrat
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:01 am to IamShado
for the record I am not influenced by anything said by a state senator from MI.
I have believed it was a complete set up from the time I watched it live on January 6. It was clearly antifa. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... -
1. IT IS ANTIFA
2. The "shooting" at the Capitol was a false flag production by DNC, Pelosi, and "Ashli Babbit" (whoever that crisis is played by) is not only not dead, but in on the false flag
Since then and studying video and "news" accounts, I have only become more certain that it was a production of Nancy Pelosi, certainly others..
I have a long list of questions in need of answers - and they are ALL mine after studying this MASSIVE DECEPTION by the DNC
and I have not required the first bit of assistance in settling on that truth though I would be glad to see details of the 301 witnesses that the Trump lawyers prepared to call, causing the fastest shutdown of a so-called "impeachment" in the history of the USA
I have believed it was a complete set up from the time I watched it live on January 6. It was clearly antifa. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... -
1. IT IS ANTIFA
2. The "shooting" at the Capitol was a false flag production by DNC, Pelosi, and "Ashli Babbit" (whoever that crisis is played by) is not only not dead, but in on the false flag
Since then and studying video and "news" accounts, I have only become more certain that it was a production of Nancy Pelosi, certainly others..
I have a long list of questions in need of answers - and they are ALL mine after studying this MASSIVE DECEPTION by the DNC
and I have not required the first bit of assistance in settling on that truth though I would be glad to see details of the 301 witnesses that the Trump lawyers prepared to call, causing the fastest shutdown of a so-called "impeachment" in the history of the USA
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:10 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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The "shooting" at the Capitol was a false flag production by DNC, Pelosi, and "Ashli Babbit" (whoever that crisis is played by) is not only not dead, but in on the false flag
Damn
Some of y’all really need help
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:15 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Damn
Some of y’all really need help
Oh good, so you have seen access to the forensic study and autopsy of this "death"
Did you get it from her friends who had a dogs, bubbles, and rhino/unicorn party at an unnamed beach in her, uh, memory?
At least the person writing the article about that was there AT THE FALSE FL, uh "shooting".. Maybe he wrote about that for people just like yourself who are ready to declare who does or who doesn't "need help"
"A girl was shot"
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:44 am to IamShado
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:13 pm to dafif
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Did he say it was planned?
Did he say McConnell knew?
Did he say he had first-hand knowledge as the story infers? Did he say he participated as intimated by the headline of the story? No and no. It's just some guy talking it out with other guys (the guys with the camera actually had more knowledge about it than he had as they were actually there).
quote:Then you've missed my entire point and are thus barking up the wrong tree.
ETA I’ve said nothing about confession.
quote:
I can listen to what was said and make an informed decision as to what was said. Whatever words are used to describe it are just peoples descriptions
The undisputed fact is he said that it was planned and is a high ranking democrat
Words are important, comprehending them through reading and listening well are both important. You've failed on both accounts and I will now list them:
1. At 1:45 he states "I wasn't there so..." as the camera-holder was discussing what happened where he was at the Capitol on 01/06. That's an acquiescence to the speaker's greater knowledge through his first-hand account. He's in agreement, but he's being led in the discussion as opposed to leading it. That's an important distinction.
2. At 2:03 he's asked about the DC Mayor and he responds with "I think she's just a puppet." That's a supposition. He's not relaying first-hand knowledge, it's just a guess.
3. At 2:15 when talking about Mitch McConnell's role in DC security he says "I think they wanted to have a mess." Again, a supposition and not a concrete statement and absolutely not a "confession".
4. Say hello to Michigan Senate Majority Leader and REPUBLICAN Mike Shirkey.
So let's sum this up: what he actually said was that he thinks it was planned, the story the OP linked is over-hyped, sensationalized bullshite because it claims Shirkey knows inside information and admits it, and you thought Shirkey was a high ranking Democrat.
Is that about right?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:15 pm to Bard
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You're bitching because I want people to be more critical of their sources before they post them and I want others to do more than just knee-jerk accept everything at face-value just because it aligns with their political beliefs.
Wrong again. I’m bitching because you’re a douchbag. It’s that simple, douchebag.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:21 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
The Dems and the GOP were behind it. They got help from Antifa and paid actors.
It is all fake and done so that Trump would have enough evidence to get him impeached in a trial that is unconstitutional.
They aren't done yet and will go after him in the civil courts. But it will just be another loss for them yet again.
It is all fake and done so that Trump would have enough evidence to get him impeached in a trial that is unconstitutional.
They aren't done yet and will go after him in the civil courts. But it will just be another loss for them yet again.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:59 pm to dchog
You cannot simply respond and that shows your ignorance. Makes zero difference if he is a Republican or Democrat although I misspoke as to democrat.
Whether he was there or not on that day makes zero difference. You hem and haw a sure sign of a weak position.
A Michigan senator said the words he said. Ask yourself why would he even say it under the circumstances. Not to be funny or sarcastic certainly.
You have no idea whether he knows or does not but he is an educated man and certainly understands the use of the English language. Explain to all of us specifically what he meant by those choice of words other than truth?
Excited to hear your clairvoyance
His words “THAT WAS A HOAX “ “THAT WAS ALL PREARRANGED “ “THEY HAD SEPARATE BUSSES “
ETA he’s this type of guy
“I do think that it’s inappropriate for the Trump administration to not start sharing information,” Mr. Shirkey said.
Whether he was there or not on that day makes zero difference. You hem and haw a sure sign of a weak position.
A Michigan senator said the words he said. Ask yourself why would he even say it under the circumstances. Not to be funny or sarcastic certainly.
You have no idea whether he knows or does not but he is an educated man and certainly understands the use of the English language. Explain to all of us specifically what he meant by those choice of words other than truth?
Excited to hear your clairvoyance
His words “THAT WAS A HOAX “ “THAT WAS ALL PREARRANGED “ “THEY HAD SEPARATE BUSSES “
ETA he’s this type of guy
“I do think that it’s inappropriate for the Trump administration to not start sharing information,” Mr. Shirkey said.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:29 pm to Bard
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They are equal because there was no confession in the video just as there was no incitement on 01/06
And they are not equal in that the MI Senate leader in question at least discussed the riots being staged.
To be the same in this respect you'd have to have Trump saying something like "Even thought I never called for violence, or even sought to call for violence, I can see how some people could have misunderstood."
While I don't agree with the article's title or body, I do think there's more red meat here than with Trump/insurrection. That's my only point.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:30 pm to IamShado
That would be awesome if that were true and they all were tried for inciting a riot that led to murder?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:04 pm to catnip
portrayed murder
dramatized a story about murder
pretended to murder
acted as though they were murdering
and then used it to "impeach" a president of the United States of America to further impact their vision of the USA being a third world shithole
dramatized a story about murder
pretended to murder
acted as though they were murdering
and then used it to "impeach" a president of the United States of America to further impact their vision of the USA being a third world shithole
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 3:13 pm
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