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re: Meet a GREAT example of what a COLLEGE should be. This is the Model we need
Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:15 am to Stingray
Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:15 am to Stingray
There is no possible way this would work at larger universities...I competed with 150 other students for an unpaid internship at NASA when I was in college. There is no way that there are enough positions for students to get that hands on work at larger schools.
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:26 am to Jjdoc
THe have the best Sunday brunch 
Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:27 am to Jjdoc
Great idea only problem I see is that their budget comes from mostly charitable donations. Not sure how that would work if we modeled all public universities after it
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:09 am to deltaland
Public universities get plenty of charity, from all of our taxes. They just waste it. gubment being gubment.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:14 am to Jjdoc
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College of the Ozarks
I drive past it every single day. I live here and have mixed feelings about the College. Unless go onto campus you would never know that there was a college in Hollister, MO.
Money ain't a problem for C of O. They're they largest land owner in the area.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:34 am to GeorgeWest
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COO has about 1550 students. It is tiny as colleges go.
SO?
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It is a Christian school.
So?
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Is COO producing research that is improving life in the country like so many universities are?
You Know, I think the overall point flew right over your head!
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:35 am to Jjdoc
Also check out Hillsdale College. AMAZING institution that takes ZERO dollars in federal funds so that it can maintain its independence and freedom to make the best decisions. Also publishes an excellent monthly newsletter IMPRIMIS that splendidly tackles today's most important topics.
LINK
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:38 am to CorporateTiger
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Yep. I’m glad this works for them, but it isn’t a model that is going to overtake higher ed.
But should.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:50 am to keakar
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WTF is "Rhetoric" and why is it even a college course?
As one that teaches "Rhetoric," I will say there is a place for college graduates to be able to speak and write clearly, use appropriate language, and genuinely not sound like they have no understanding of the English language.
I have to teach a Foundations class every fall, primarily to freshmen. Believe me, a basic course is needed and should be required regardless of major.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:58 am to anc
As far as COO goes, the college lives by its "Hard Work U." mantra and they are proud of it.
Another of these colleges that warrants looking at is Grove City College ( LINK. GCC takes no federal money, at all. No student loans, no Pell Grants, nothing. Average student pays about $5,000 after scholarships and in house grants. Amazing education as well. Princeton Review, US News, Forbes - all consider it a top school.
The college decision is so major. Its imperative that we as parents be involved. So many times, I have encountered great parents, who would never let their kids leave the house dressed inappropriately, become completely hands off with something so major.
Go with your kids on college visits. Ignore size, sizzle and sports. Ask tough questions even if they embarrass your kids. Make sure you know what you are paying for. Make your kid sign a FERPA waiver.
Another of these colleges that warrants looking at is Grove City College ( LINK. GCC takes no federal money, at all. No student loans, no Pell Grants, nothing. Average student pays about $5,000 after scholarships and in house grants. Amazing education as well. Princeton Review, US News, Forbes - all consider it a top school.
The college decision is so major. Its imperative that we as parents be involved. So many times, I have encountered great parents, who would never let their kids leave the house dressed inappropriately, become completely hands off with something so major.
Go with your kids on college visits. Ignore size, sizzle and sports. Ask tough questions even if they embarrass your kids. Make sure you know what you are paying for. Make your kid sign a FERPA waiver.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:58 am to GeorgeWest
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Is COO producing research that is improving life in the country like so many universities are?
Researching transgenders and avocado toast doesn't benefit America
Posted on 3/16/18 at 9:58 am to unbeWEAVEable
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Sounds like a LBJ iniative
LBJ was in on the murder and coverup of Kennedy ..all to expand the Viet Nam War for the war/ military industrial complex.... just as ex-president Eisenhower told Kennedy to be aware of
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:00 am to deltaland
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Great idea only problem I see is that their budget comes from mostly charitable donations. Not sure how that would work if we modeled all public universities after it
They have alot of endowments
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:01 am to gamatt53
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Rather save in a 529 and send my kid to a big public state school. Let them experience the best 4-5 Years of their life like I did (provided a certain gpa is maintained and they pick an employable major).
I mean, I went to a big public state school and experienced college life while also working the same types of hours referenced below. Undergrad I worked for the university, grad school I worked for a business in town. It didn't lessen my enjoyment of the college experience in any way.
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All full-time resident students, and commuting students carrying at least 12 hours, work 15 hours per week during the fall and spring semesters. In addition, each full-time student works two 40-hour weeks chosen from the weeks when classes are not in session. Resident students who demonstrate financial need may participate in the 12-week summer work scholarship program. Summer work will be credited toward room and board expenses for the following academic year.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:06 am to Jorts R Us
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Why do you think that?
Because it's accurate to say that.
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I’d say a number of tenured professors don’t put much emphasis on teaching. I think that’s problematic.
I don't. If they are filling a role in the organization that is valuable, what's the problem?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:07 am to Stingray
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Aren't you admired here
I would say that this is not very likely.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:13 am to Jjdoc
Jjdoc,
During your research, you see any info about C of O's decision to quit hosting the NAIA DII National Basketball Tournament because the NAIA refused to require that all participating college's sign C of O's "No Pledge, No Play" policy?
Policy focused on outlawing kneeling during the National Anthem.
Tournament has been here for 18 years and has been an amazing benefit for the community. Area businesses benefited from this influx of people and they also became hosts sponsors for these teams. Teams would use all area gyms for practice sites. Our kids were ball boys during games. Springfield Bus. Journal estimated that this decision would have a $2 mil. economic impact.
LINK
I understand all the kneeling stuff but not hosting that tournament was a big blow to the whole community.
During your research, you see any info about C of O's decision to quit hosting the NAIA DII National Basketball Tournament because the NAIA refused to require that all participating college's sign C of O's "No Pledge, No Play" policy?
Policy focused on outlawing kneeling during the National Anthem.
Tournament has been here for 18 years and has been an amazing benefit for the community. Area businesses benefited from this influx of people and they also became hosts sponsors for these teams. Teams would use all area gyms for practice sites. Our kids were ball boys during games. Springfield Bus. Journal estimated that this decision would have a $2 mil. economic impact.
LINK
I understand all the kneeling stuff but not hosting that tournament was a big blow to the whole community.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 10:18 am
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:26 am to anc
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Another of these colleges that warrants looking at is Grove City College ( LINK. GCC takes no federal money, at all. No student loans, no Pell Grants, nothing. Average student pays about $5,000 after scholarships and in house grants. Amazing education as well. Princeton Review, US News, Forbes - all consider it a top school.
I went to high school with a bunch of folks who went to Grove City. It's only about an hour out of Pittsburgh. There are a couple of majors there to avoid, from what I've been told. But largely, everyone I know who went there has done really well for themselves.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:29 am to Stuttgart Tiger
Were there really a lot of national anthem kneeling NAIA players that precipitated this move? 
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:34 am to RolltidePA
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I went to high school with a bunch of folks who went to Grove City. It's only about an hour out of Pittsburgh. There are a couple of majors there to avoid, from what I've been told. But largely, everyone I know who went there has done really well for themselves.
Every college has more than a couple majors to avoid.
I've told both of my kids from an early age - this is their list to choose from. It is subject to change before they get to college, but here's the list:
Accounting
Engineering
Medical/Health Professions
Computer Science
Data and Actuary Sciences
Education with intent to pursue Masters in Ed. Leadership
That's it. The only acceptable majors for my children.
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