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Media Lying About Climate And Hurricanes

Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:27 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:27 am
Media Lying About Climate And Hurricanes
It's time to state the obvious.

Michael Shellenberger Oct 4

Over the last several weeks, many mainstream news media outlets have claimed that hurricanes are becoming more expensive, more frequent, and more intense because of climate change.

As such, it’s clear that reporters are deliberately seeking to convince their readers and listeners of the false impression that hurricanes are becoming more frequent and intense. Many reporters do so in a subtle way, like ABC’s Zee, while others are more direct about it, like the FT’s Williams
The Financial Times reported that “hurricane frequency is on the rise.”

The New York Times claimed, “strong storms are becoming more common in the Atlantic Ocean.”

The Washington Post said, “climate change is rapidly fueling super hurricanes.”

ABC News declared, “Here’s how climate change intensifies hurricanes.”

Both the FT and N.Y. Times showed graphs purporting to show rising hurricane frequency using data from the U.S. government’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

All of those claims are false.

The increasing cost of hurricane damage can be explained entirely by more people and more property in harm’s way. Once you adjust for rising wealth, there is no trend of increasing damage.

the best-available science forecasts that the slight increase in overall hurricane intensity in the future won’t be because there are more intense hurricanes but rather because hurricanes overall will decline more than intense hurricanes (category 4 and 5). As a result, there will be a greater proportion of category 4 and 5 hurricanes than categories 1, 2, and 3.

In other words, the relative intensity of hurricanes will rise, even as the total number of hurricanes — and the total number of intense hurricanes — decline.

Is it possible journalists are just ignorant of current climate science? Perhaps some are. But mainstream news media outlets have been covering climate change and hurricanes for the last 20 years. And the information on hurricane costs, frequency, or intensity is hardly hidden away. It’s been summarized in the IPCC reports, most recently in 2021. And NOAA even boldfaces its key conclusions.

Consider four of the main ways the media mislead the public about climate change and hurricanes. They:

1. Misrepresent data showing improved observations of hurricanes (thanks in large measure to satellites and other hurricane detection technologies) as evidence of more frequent hurricanes;

2. Misrepresent hypotheses (e.g., that some hurricanes may become more intense by 2100) as facts in the present without mentioning that median projections suggest a decrease in all categories of storms;

3. Cherry-pick data to present trends in a relatively recent period since the 1980s and ignore the fact that there is much longer-term data available;

4. Confuse increasing damage with increasing incidence or intensity, even as there is a strong understanding that what and where we build explains all escalating disaster damage.

What about the article in The New York Times, by-lined by David Leonhardt, which claims that "strong storms are becoming more common in the Atlantic Ocean”? What about its graph, which shows a trend of rising category 4 and 5 storms starting in 1980?

The 1970s and 1980s are well-understood to be the low point in hurricane activity in the 20th Century. In a paper titled “Changes in Atlantic major hurricane frequency since the late-19th century,” which Nature Communications published last year, scientists wrote, “the inactive period in the late 20th century may have been the most inactive period in recent centuries.” So, of course, a time series starting in 1980 will show increased activity.

It is an obviously deliberate and egregiously unprofessional choice.

I have known David for over a decade and know that he can be a careful reporter when he chooses to be. He did some of the most honest reporting for The New York Times on Covid. He won Pulitzers in 2010 and 2011. I emailed David to ask what made him decide to cherry-pick those dates; I have not heard back. Whatever the case, The New York Times should retract or correct the article.

It is notable that journalists twist themselves into pretzels to create the impression that hurricanes are increasing in frequency and intensity without ever acknowledging the data showing that they are not. A simple graph of U.S. landfalls shows that. And yet no major media outlet has ever, to my knowledge, published it.

media lying about climate change and hurricanes
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4507 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:52 am to
Hard to believe how many sheep still follow media and corrupt academics.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68265 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:58 am to
I had an argument with my step-dad about climate change. His only example was some mountain top in Switzerland he visited as a kid and then again a couple years ago. There was snow then, not now. That means the world is ending even after I gave him concrete fact and data he couldn't dispute.
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1636 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:00 am to
What is truly sad is that if you present data contradicting the climate kooks hypothesis, your career is in serious jeopardy. Shameful anti-science.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64587 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:03 am to
The really rough part for me is there is no one to make them relent and stop. I don't want to muzzle journalism but it needs to be truthful.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
4749 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:37 am to
If the left really believed in global warming they should declare war on China and India.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:59 am to
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What is truly sad is that if you present data contradicting the climate kooks hypothesis, your career is in serious jeopardy. Shameful anti-science.

truth.

like:


In 2018, John Podesta (left) and his Center for American Progress launched a campaign of character assassination against leading climate and hurricane researcher Roger Pielke, Jr. (right)

Noted scientist JOHN FCKG PODESTA! led a group targeting scientists who had thought independent of leftist propaganda mills...
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4163 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:59 am to
Well these are the same people that think boys and girls are the same. So, you think they can grasp climate science?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:01 am to
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In 2018, John Podesta (left) and his Center for American Progress launched a campaign of character assassination against leading climate and hurricane researcher Roger Pielke, Jr. (right)
Pielke, Jr. has for a quarter-century been a strong advocate for strong action on climate change. But because his scientific work on hurricanes undermines climate alarmism, progressive activists and Democrats in Congress and the White House have vilified him. In 2008, the Center for American Progress, led by John Podesta, the former chief of staff to Bill Clinton and campaign chairman for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign, joined in on a shockingly vicious and personal series of attacks on Pielke, including falsely claiming he was funded by fossil fuel interests.

All of these efforts were plainly aimed at discrediting Pielke, Jr., to journalists. They triggered an enormous quantity of media coverage which culminated in a 2014 effort by CAP to get Pielke, Jr. fired as a columnist for Nate Silver’s website, fivethirtyeight.com, after it published an article by Pielke, Jr. summarizing the science showing no increase in hurricane frequency or intensity.

Pielke, Jr. then wrote about the experience of being canceled by fivethirtyeight.com in The Wall Street Journal in 2016. I wrote about the attacks in Apocalypse Never, in a viral article I wrote introducing the book, and again last week. Every senior editor, producer, or reporter working in a mainstream news media outlet knows about the debate over Pielke, Jr.’s work, and the fact base behind it.

Roger has responded to these attacks, which have undermined his professional career, and intimidated his colleagues, many of whom behaved with the cowardice typical of academics today, with grace and dignity. He is a model of courage in public life. You can support him by taking a moment now to subscribe to his excellent, must-read Substack.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118640 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:13 am to
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The 1970s and 1980s are well-understood to be the low point in hurricane activity in the 20th Century. In a paper titled “Changes in Atlantic major hurricane frequency since the late-19th century,” which Nature Communications published last year, scientists wrote, “the inactive period in the late 20th century may have been the most inactive period in recent centuries.” So, of course, a time series starting in 1980 will show increased activity.


The media does the same thing with temperature data. They like to start in 1960, the lowest point in the temperature record to illustrate rising temperature. Meanwhile there is a entire temperature record before 1900 that they ignore. The temperature record between 1920 and 1950 really chaps their arse. It's the warmest period in the temperature data set.

Also notice how they always say "the temperature has risen 1.5 degrees C is proof the earth is warming", but they never provide a starting point. This means on the temperature data set I can find any point in the set were the temperature increased by 1.5 degrees and still maintain truthfulness. But the opposite is also true in the temperature data. The temperature has decreased 1.5 degrees in many timeframes too.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118640 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:17 am to
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The really rough part for me is there is no one to make them relent and stop.


Because it's used as a propaganda tool to capture votes, tax incentives, and government funding projects. There are a lot of delusional people in this country and they are in leadership positions. It is potentially very dangerous.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49521 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:20 am to
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Over the last several weeks, many mainstream news media outlets have claimed that hurricanes are becoming more expensive


Biden's economy effecting everything.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:28 am to
I agree with you 110%! This video popped up on YouTube yesterday and after watching the first five minutes I needed to turn it off. So many lies being proclaimed as truth. Our country is in big trouble.

Army Climate Implementation Plan

Summary:
Join us for the launch of the Implementation Plan for the Army Climate Strategy (ACS), the Army's guidance to achieve ACS targets.

This conversation will feature Paul Farnan, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy and Environment, and Sharon Burke, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs for the Department of Defense (DOD).

The ACS—released February 2022—establishes new climate and energy targets for Army installations, infrastructure, supply chains, and training. The U.S. Army is the first Service within DOD to release a climate strategy.

Moderated by Morgan Higman, Senior Fellow with the CSIS Energy Security and Climate Change Program.

This event is made possible by general funding to CSIS and the CSIS Energy Security and Climate Change Program.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:29 am to
You should have type a period after the word "lying" and ended the post
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19041 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:42 am to
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Over the last several weeks, many mainstream news media outlets have claimed that hurricanes are becoming more expensive,


this part is correct. the price of building materials just keeps escalating and people keep flocking to the coast with no slow down in sight. has nothing to do with the hurricanes themselves.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9115 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:47 am to
Your stepdad is a dumbass. Sorry.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118640 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:48 am to
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This conversation will feature Paul Farnan, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy and Environment, and Sharon Burke, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs for the Department of Defense (DOD).


His first 3 assertions about the consequences of climate change were false:

1. Hurricanes...your OP debunked this assertion of increased frequency and intensity.

2. Melting polar ice caps. Well the polar ice caps have always been melting, its a question of mass balance and the mass of ice has held steady for the last century.

3. Wild fires out west. The burn acreage in North America is down since the 1930 by ten fold. Forest fires used to be MUCH worse pre WWII. 1980 was the lowest burn acreage on record and it bumped up a little after that and has basically held steady.

Right off the bat this dude is lying.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20191 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:01 am to
Hell Biden opened up his press conference comments in Florida the other day, after pledging to cut the political theatrics out, saying there was no doubt about climate change and citing wild fires and hurricanes as his anecdotal evidence…we have already had this shite and it anything, stupid leftist forest management has caused more fire issues. So friggin stupid!!!
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:15 am to
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Right off the bat this dude is lying.


Exactly. So hard to watch the corrupt.
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