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re: Maxine Waters labels Ruby Ridge incident as "domestic terrorism"
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:35 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:35 pm to Vacherie Saint
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So it's all his fault because he should have anticipated having nearly his entire family slaughtered by a small army for missing a court date?
Except that isn't even close to what I said.
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I'll add you to the retard list.
Add yourself
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:55 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
No one is saying that Randy Weaver was right to ignore his court date.
That's not even what this thread about, but it's telling that the board liberals are here defending the Feds in this case.
That's not even what this thread about, but it's telling that the board liberals are here defending the Feds in this case.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
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No one is saying that Randy Weaver was right to ignore his court date.
That's not even what this thread about, but it's telling that the board liberals are here defending the Feds in this case.
I don't see anyone defending the federal government here. What I do see people saying is that Weaver precipitated the entire event, and he did.
This and the Bundy situation are two example of why some people have a legitimate beef when they complain about systemic racism in this country. If a situation similar to Ruby Ridge had happened to a black family in an inner city, no one would have given a shite.
You know this is truth. Same thing with the Bundy assholes, those fools were pointing rifles at federal agents and not only are they not shot , no one is even put in jail.
I am on record here as saying BLM is a terrorist organization, but when morons defend white people who break the fricking law with no consequences while black people end up in scuffles with the police that result in their deaths over some fricking cigarellos there's a legitimate point in there somewhere.
Why on Earth can't we all just stand behind " NO ONE has the right to fight with, or ignore the police when they are performing their lawful duty?"
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:30 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
You are arguing that he "precipitated the situation" so in essence, he brought this on himself.
I'm arguing that the federal response was unreasonably brutal and could not have been anticipated by the Weavers. A kid smoking weed on the corner is not "precipitating" getting shot in the face by a cop. He may be a criminal, but his rights were still violated.
This is a hilarious about-face by liberals who are still picking sand out of their asses over Cambridge, Sanford, and Ferguson.
I'm arguing that the federal response was unreasonably brutal and could not have been anticipated by the Weavers. A kid smoking weed on the corner is not "precipitating" getting shot in the face by a cop. He may be a criminal, but his rights were still violated.
This is a hilarious about-face by liberals who are still picking sand out of their asses over Cambridge, Sanford, and Ferguson.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:47 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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You know this is truth. Same thing with the Bundy assholes, those fools were pointing rifles at federal agents and not only are they not shot , no one is even put in jail.
The Bundy guys are dumb.
Weaver, on the other hand, was pretty much minding his own business way out in the Idaho wilderness when the FBI decided to entrap him with a BS sawed off shotgun charge.
Weaver didn't go to court, the FBI closed in on his house and Weaver's 14 year old son fired shots off at agents in the bushes. I can't really blame the agents themselves for returning fire and killing the kid. However, the killing of his wife was what was inexcusable. She had nothing to do with any of it and wasn't armed.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 3:09 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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What I do see people saying is that Weaver precipitated the entire event, and he did.
Except he didn't because the entire chain of events from the genesis was was ruled entrapment, so the entire event was instigated by the federal government.
So you couldn't be more wrong actually.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:12 pm to Strannix
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Except he didn't because the entire chain of events from the genesis was was ruled entrapment, so the entire event was instigated by the federal government.
And yet...he still was convicted of and served time for the missed court date
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:17 pm to Vacherie Saint
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This is a hilarious about-face by liberals who are still picking sand out of their asses over Cambridge, Sanford, and Ferguson.
Actually, it's an hilarious about take for many who usually respond to police getting killed as "fry that mother fricker" or "hope he doesn't get a trial" etc. and to police shootings with "play stupid games..." etc.
What happened to this boards majority belief of "just do what the police say"?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:32 pm to magildachunks
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What happened to this boards majority belief of "just do what the police say"?
noone is saying Weaver shouldn't have gone to court. What we are saying is that it's slimy as frick for you to blame him for precipitating the situation as if he should have known his family would be murdered one by one as a result.
I break the law everyday when I go over the speed limit. If a cop pulls me over and cleves my head in half with double ought buckshot right in front of my hysterical 6 year old, did I "precipitate" that situation?
Stop being a smug prick about this. The guy was set up, entrapped, and his family was executed without just cause. If he were a black kid with a bag of fricking skittles, you'd be arguing the exact opposite position.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:36 pm to Strannix
I was actually shocked that Waters may have been onto a logical train of thought until I read this:
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On the part of the Weavers
Posted on 9/11/17 at 4:54 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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I am on record here as saying BLM is a terrorist organization, .
Kudos on recognizing the obvious.
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but when morons defend white people who break the fricking law with no consequences while black people end up in scuffles with the police that result in their deaths over some fricking cigarellos there's a legitimate point in there somewhere
Now that is stupid beyond description.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:29 pm to Strannix
Well by golly she'll have to speak to President Bush about that.
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