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re: Massie the only republican to vote against the SAVE Act

Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Yes, Christian morality has been the foundation of every single post I've made in this thread, from the very first one where I pondered what other purpose their is for laws other than to enforce the moral code of the general citizenry.


So when you asked this question

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Would you say on the whole that the Judeo-Christian world developed way differently than thr Muslim world?


It was only about morality and not society, politics, culture or development of any of the 3?

Also, you do realize that similar laws have existed long before Christianity (or even Judaism) and by cultures who never interacted with either, right?
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:42 pm to
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It was only about morality and not society, politics, culture or development of any of the 3?


I don't distinguish these from morality. Wealth specifically is in some ways antithetical to Jesus' teachings, so I don't consider a lot of money necessarily representative of Christian values. They do usually follow because of how wealth relates to other areas that are uniquely Christian.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:45 pm to
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You’re just another self-important fig who’s not getting anything done. Your distinguishing characteristic is that you’re bad at arguing on top of it.

“People who don’t believe like me are against the Constitution.”

And then top it all up with “you seem like a leftist.”

The irony is thick enough to cut with a poop knife.


I can't tell much difference between people who trust the government and think the government should force their views on other people. You're all to the left of me.

This post was edited on 2/12/26 at 5:46 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:52 pm to
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But when such a government goes beyond that purpose and no longer serves the people it is supposed to represent, then it's our duty to fix it.


That’s exactly what us normal people are trying to do.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:53 pm to
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There are infinite choices, actually, as you can modify legislation proposals however you want.


It should be easy for you to name 5, but so far it’s zero.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:54 pm to
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Here you are menstruating again….

It’s certainly possible for one to vote for Ron Paul in 2008/12, and also not know he endorsed Ronald Reagan in 1976.

As if that has any relevance to anything we are discussing. Just more useless knowledge from old man 3rd down.


Virtually every supporter knew that because they were constantly dealing with people claiming he wasn't republican because he wasn't like the neocons in 2008 who would constantly praise Reagan while being shitty neocons.

Weird how you were such a big supporter and yet at the same continue to fail basic tests. You've never once demonstrated an understanding of liberty and you don't even know general facts.

And just 6 years ago you were the big leftist covid is going to kill us all, it's selfish to not give up your freedoms.

You are a liar and a poser.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:58 pm to
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That’s exactly what us normal people are trying to do.


Yes, and that's what liberals claim too when they try to do all that woke shite.

If you aren't trying to conserve and restore the constitution and get us back to limited government you are not the good guys.

You support the increase of government, not the decrease. You just want the government to rule over your life in a different way. 6 years ago you wanted them to take over peoples lives over covid, now it's whatever boogieman you've recently bought into.

A prime example of why anyone who doesn't push for limited government is a bad guy and why we need it so other people are pushed to the whims of nitwits like you.


Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:58 pm to
I cannot imagine he has any plans of running for reelection. This has to be the end of his political career, whether he’s planning for it to be or not.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 6:58 pm to
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Yes, and that's what liberals claim too when they try to do all that woke shite


They are known to be disingenuous liars. Their true plans are nefarious, and your apathy towards them enables them.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 8:15 pm to
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If you aren't trying to conserve and restore the constitution and get us back to limited government you are not the good guys.


Managing the border and managing federal elections are not massive expansions of government power.

The left wants to do much much worse, but you can’t even acknowledge that reality.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 2/12/26 at 10:50 pm to
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Virtually every supporter knew that because they were constantly dealing with people claiming he wasn't republican because he wasn't like the neocons in 2008 who would constantly praise Reagan while being shitty neocons.

Weird how you were such a big supporter and yet at the same continue to fail basic tests. You've never once demonstrated an understanding of liberty and you don't even know general facts.

And just 6 years ago you were the big leftist covid is going to kill us all, it's selfish to not give up your freedoms.

You are a liar and a poser.


Of course you are just deflecting because I called you out for not being as principled as you claim to be because you have voted for the "leftist GOP."

Virtually every supporter knew who he endorsed 32/36 years before 08/12? Sure. You are reaching levels of absurdity never before seen on this board.

A logical flaw of this take of yours is that one doesn't have to be a "big supporter" to cast a vote for someone. Voters can merely be supporters.

Another logical flaw of this take of yours is that one could be a "big supporter" without knowing every detail of his autobiography.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 10:51 pm to
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Of course you are just deflecting because I called you out for not being as principled as you claim to be because you have voted for the "leftist GOP."


What a staunch principled conseravtive
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 11:32 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


F. A. G.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 11:40 pm to
He voted FOR the bill and it passed.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:09 am to
It’s like a missed pat
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 2/13/26 at 1:30 am to
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Managing the border and managing federal elections are not massive expansions of government power.

The left wants to do much much worse, but you can’t even acknowledge that reality.


That's not the only things going on.

When your best selling point is claiming the other side is worse, then you have no real argument. It's just a series of the 2 sides of the uni-party lowering the bar so ignorant fricks like you will keep voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

You're like the monkey who can't let go of the banana.




Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 2/13/26 at 1:37 am to
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Of course you are just deflecting because I called you out for not being as principled as you claim to be because you have voted for the "leftist GOP."

Virtually every supporter knew who he endorsed 32/36 years before 08/12? Sure. You are reaching levels of absurdity never before seen on this board.

A logical flaw of this take of yours is that one doesn't have to be a "big supporter" to cast a vote for someone. Voters can merely be supporters.

Another logical flaw of this take of yours is that one could be a "big supporter" without knowing every detail of his autobiography.


Yes and if you had been a Ron Paul supporter as you claim you would know why. You would know what the neocon arguments were against him, and that just like Massie he was constantly accused of not being republican and helping the left due to his voting record and not being part of the swamp.

He literally ran ads highlighting the fact.



And yet you had no clue. I have to wonder if you do any research on the shite you support or claim to support.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 2/13/26 at 1:42 am to
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What a staunch principled conseravtive


Arent you impressed with his Ron Paul bio memorization though?!

The man has a knack for Useless trivia.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 2/13/26 at 1:48 am to
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That's not the only things going on.


What else is going on?

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When your best selling point is claiming the other side is worse, then you have no real argument.


FAR worse.

Its all relative, so its a damn good argument. There is a major difference, one you cant explain away, which results in deflecting actions over and over.

One side wants to destroy every institution in this nation, and is hiding behind the constitution to do it. They have weaponized it, and it threatens us all.

The other side simply wants to preserve it before it is destroyed. This is no way threatens you.

but to you, its all the same
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 2/13/26 at 1:54 am to
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Yes and if you had been a Ron Paul supporter as you claim you would know why.


Zero chance "virtually" every single 2012 Ron Paul voter knew who he supported in the 1976 GOP primary, especially those who weren't born until well after that. That's the kind of detail normal people don't GAF about, but we know you aint normal.
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