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re: Massie loyalists will try to argue against this but, it's the truth.

Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:05 pm to
Not everyone can be like AIPAC ED

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:07 pm to
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Just to get this on the record, you claim that Trumps 2020 stimmies, unemployment and PPP loans has zero to do with inflation

I wrote an extensive post explaining what I thought. You seem to have comprehension problems. I wrote that if Biden had not dumped more stimmy on the fire we would have a clear picture of what the result of the Trump stimulus was. Would it have ignited inflation, and to what extent?

There was a correct amount of stimulus. How much was widely debated by economists. Whatever the right amount was we exceeded that…by a lot.
I don’t understand how you can read that and then ask the question above.

ALL of the Biden stimulus was inflationary, some of the Trump stimulus probably was, because the downside of understimulating, in that situation, is worse than the downside of overstimulating.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:10 pm to
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I wrote that if Biden had not dumped more stimmy on the fire we would have a clear picture of what the result of the Trump stimulus was.


No shite, sherlock.

We would have had the inflation had the economy opened 4 months earlier, or later, and regardless of who the POTUS was.



Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:13 pm to
David Duke lauded Trump


Will you just stop with x and posting lies? Too difficult for you?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
Chicken Ed
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
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That's why we're $39 trillion in debt.
And, assuredly, the T 45 spending contributed. The question obviously is, what would have happened with no intervention?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
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some of the Trump stimulus probably was,




If you want to dig through and decide which dollars contributed, be my guest. Youre gonna be frustrated and fail in the end.

You cant put 5t out there, then experience supply shocks and supply chain issues, without bad inflation.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:16 pm to
"Guilt by association is a logical fallacy that discredits an argument or individual by linking them to a negative or disreputable entity, assuming that they share the same undesirable qualities. This fallacy ignores the actual merits of the argument or individual and relies on emotional bias against the associated entity."
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:17 pm to
Because he's anti-war. Duh.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:21 pm to
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And, assuredly, the T 45 spending contributed. The question obviously is, what would have happened with no intervention?


Businesses would have stayed open.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:21 pm to
Too difficult. I understand.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:24 pm to
What would have happened with no intervention re: stimulus? Well, that was part of the recipe to lure folks from out of their homes and back into society, most importantly here, back into participating in the economy - back out shopping again, traveling/vacationing, etc etc. I guess you have to ask yourself how much longer could our economy have gone without the most important ingredient to it (human participation), had they (and their buying power) languished in their homes, leaving the streets vacant of consumers?

My opinion is that another couple of weeks without pumping hardly any fuel into the economy would have caused catastrophic and possibly irreversibly catastrophic damage and destruction. Thus the unfortunate yet critical move being discussed here was unavoidable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:24 pm to
The MAGA hit on Massie is evidence that Trump is a trojan horse.

Donny seems to hate fiscal responsible people who advocate non interventionism faaar more than he hates Democrats.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:28 pm to
Israel Firsters love Neocon Ed, who wants to draft their kids.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:31 pm to
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My opinion is that another couple of weeks without pumping hardly any fuel into the economy would have caused catastrophic and possibly irreversibly catastrophic damage and destruction. Thus the unfortunate yet critical move being discussed here was unavoidable.
100%.
Virtually unarguable.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:33 pm to
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Businesses would have stayed open.
Just as Alice "would have" ruled Wonderland.
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