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re: Massachusetts officials took custody of teenage girl after parents refused gender change

Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:51 pm to
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You're missing my point. Guidance counselors don’t make medical diagnoses. Physicians do. That’s who would have to weigh-in before the state could legally intervene.

You're missing the point. Councelors can report abuse to Protective Services. Under some of these state's laws, their justification for taking the kids are that the parents are refusing "mental care" for their children.
And are therefore negligent, and endangering the child.
And since these states label this shite as "life saving" they are "endangering the life of the child".
So the state is allowed to take custody.
The whole thing about the state continuing the transition process is a big fat load of horse shite provided by hiding in their shite of "life saving care".
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25029 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Once that label is applied, and they are involved, how do you fight such a thing?

You’d have to move to a red state.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5960 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:56 pm to
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You’d have to move to a red state.

Agreed. But that has consequence too. Kidnapping is the first, and moving across state lines makes it federal.
And as soon as MA finds your location, they will still get the kids back.

I'd go to prison for my kid. But a case like this, I couldn't fight the fight for him against the state, in a cell.

It's a seriously fricked up situation.
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
70 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:59 pm to
I can promise you if that were to happen to me that there would be a lot of dead Massachusetts officials
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 2:02 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
25029 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:59 pm to
They waited too long to reestablish residency elsewhere.

I’d still probably take my chances and be on the phone with whatever red state governor would take up the cause and try to get the story on Fox News asap.
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
3240 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:00 pm to
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I feel like there’s more to the story - if a doctor determined the transition was “life saving care”


Of course you do, shite stain. It’s why we keep going from “this doesn’t happen” to “ok, it is happening but it’s a good thing,” endlessly with you absolute fagot humans ;)

You, and the brain washed school counselor, think if girl likes baseball, she should probably be a boy, and you’ll convince a 13 year old this is true to justify your own retardation, and then call it life saving.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60624 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Suicidal ideations brought on by diagnosed gender dysphoria (by a licensed physician). This is a standard diagnoses in cases of gender dysphoria.


what page of the DSM will I find that?
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
70 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:01 pm to
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if a doctor determined the transition was “life saving care”
so an idiot
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60624 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:02 pm to
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So, if a Muslim father beats his daughter for refusing to wear a hijab, will state child protection services take her away?


Failing to grasp the analogy. Because this is stupid and not analogous.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5960 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:04 pm to
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They waited too long to reestablish residency elsewhere.

I’d still probably take my chances and be on the phone with whatever red state governor would take up the cause and try to get the story on Fox News asap.

Yes.
I thought about exactly that, right after I hit the submit button. And was typing up a second response.
I would also write to plead.my situation to the state AG as well.
But yeah, going as public as possible with it is also a weapon at their disposal.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2690 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:08 pm to
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I feel like there’s more to the story - if a doctor determined the transition was “life saving care” (for example she was suicidal due to her gender dysphoria diagnoses) then the state would have grounds to intervene.


I think you have to be right. No way a school counsellor did this on his/her own and that decision satisfied even the weakest of "reviews."

What I wonder is what the standard is in a case like this. How many doctors reviewed the case and personally diagnosed. Did a Judge make a determination between competing experts? Etc.

This is the downside to denying parents' religious rights to reject treatment for their children when experts determine it is necessary. Especially today when the medical profession, like everything else, is heavily politicized and ideological.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5960 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:08 pm to
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So, if a Muslim father beats his daughter for refusing to wear a hijab, will state child protection services take her away?

If they are (one of the WAY TOO FEW) states that have banned Sharia Law as legal defense, then I am betting that some of them would.
That also of course depends on where it happens. Suicidal empathy councelors would ignore it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48381 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:09 pm to
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So, if a Muslim father beats his daughter for refusing to wear a hijab, will state child protection services take her away?


Why don't you just use the situation in the OP, but with a Muslim family?
You still think the State of Massachusetts tries to transition his hijab wearing underaged daughter behind their backs, then takes custody of her when he resists on religious grounds?

Be honest
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5960 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:16 pm to
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She has been in state custody since 2024. It goes to show the power of the state.

It does. It really does.
My sister and I were wards of the court since I was 3 to 18. Some of the crap the CPS and judges can pull is outright bullshite.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36832 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:21 pm to
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if a doctor determined the transition was “life saving care”


Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5960 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:27 pm to
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Seems that they should be suing the school counselor too. The counselor's background and sexuality should also be looked into. Probably a gay leftist and maybe worse.

Some of these fricking schools get kickbacks. Donations from certain entities, for every kid they start up on medications, "treatments" and such.
If you're angry now, don't look into how deep the roots go. It will enrage you.
Homeschool your kids.
Posted by Tigersforthee
Member since Dec 2025
230 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:40 pm to
This issue should definitely be part of the 2028 campaign season. One party thinks this is awesome and the other party needs to make sure everyone knows it.
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
1463 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 3:04 pm to
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Every candidate running for every office in America should be asked to tell us their position on this f*cking insanity.


I'd love to see Talafreako have to comment on this publicly.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10413 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 3:09 pm to
This is where the Feds need to get involved.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
83962 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Why don't you just use the situation in the OP, but with a Muslim family?


I would guess that Mass. would likely bend the knee for the Muslims.
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