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re: Mass shooting at Tx baptist church

Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:03 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167142 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:03 am to
In the Chelsea Handler thread I posted he was ANTIFA. We shall see.... What is CNN saying?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26469 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:03 am to
I don’t watch that shite
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26697 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:48 am to
If ANTIFA was a right wing organization we would have various media talking heads Dem congressmen and women out there foaming at the mouth about white supremacists under everyone's beds and in all the closets.

It is time to end that group and lock all those anarchists away. They have hurt enough people and caused enough damage.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 5:49 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37340 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:02 am to
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Looks like shooter bought his rifle at Academy Sports in 2016. The background check did not turn up his dishonorable discharge.

What a fail.
It's being reported as a bad conduct discharge now. AP article
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Kelley received a bad-conduct discharge from the Air Force for allegedly assaulting his spouse and child, and was sentenced to 12 months' confinement after a 2012 court-martial. Kelley served in Logistics Readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico from 2010 until his discharge, Air Force spokeswoman Ann Stefanek said.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:18 am to
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It is time to end that group and lock all those anarchists away


Antifa isn't anarchist. They want a lot of -archy, like all of the -archy.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39638 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:35 am to
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Looks like shooter bought his rifle at Academy Sports in 2016. The background check did not turn up his dishonorable discharge. What a fail.


Bust their arse...no excuses for any 'fail'.

That aside, the shooter would have got a gun anyway. I don't know if this can be fixed; we essentially have a LOT of human beings coming into existence by the power of a complex System which promotes and sustains individuals whose relative dysfunction would otherwise disqualify their survivability. Given the psychological affects of Social/Mass Media from FaceBook to Hollywood glorification of violence on individual human psyches...it's a good chance that this particular psychoses goes viral and becomes some sort of sadistic, egocentric fad.

Our population is full of individuals - likely 10% in certain societal demographics - who are relative sociopaths to different degrees, and an existential danger to their peers.

Sad truth...whatever we tolerate - for whatever reason, good intentions nws - we get more of. Rock and a hard place.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:45 am to
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It's being reported as a bad conduct discharge now. AP article
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Kelley received a bad-conduct discharge from the Air Force for allegedly assaulting his spouse and child,


Figured that. From what I understand one must really earn a dishonorable discharge. Felonies such as rape or sexual assault ,murder or desertion( Bergdhal) / treason.


Getting drummed out of the military doesn't mean it was ' dishonorable'.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39638 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:53 am to
PS...the nihilistic Philosophy of Atheism is an essential incubator for this type of action. People who believe that it's 'one and done', that their present lot in life (having NO future) is not determined by THEIR beliefs/actions but by the luck of the draw...that there is NO accountability...have zero restraint on any action they may take. There is no moral dynamic. No inhibitions re any action. It's all equal.

"The fool sayeth in his heart that there is no God...".

Live and learn.
Posted by Synchronicity
Member since Nov 2017
505 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:57 am to
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RCDfan1950


I enjoy reading your take on things. Always thought provoking and interesting.
Posted by Pbhog
Pine bluff, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2015
3460 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:02 am to
Original poster needs to correct his statement. His islamicphobia is showing
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:23 am to
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PS...the nihilistic Philosophy of Atheism is an essential incubator for this type of action. People who believe that it's 'one and done', that their present lot in life (having NO future) is not determined by THEIR beliefs/actions but by the luck of the draw...that there is NO accountability...have zero restraint on any action they may take. There is no moral dynamic. No inhibitions re any action. It's all equal.




You must be a terrible person. It's a good thing you have your Bible.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476502 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:30 am to
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PS...the nihilistic Philosophy of Atheism is an essential incubator for this type of action. People who believe that it's 'one and done', that their present lot in life (having NO future) is not determined by THEIR beliefs/actions but by the luck of the draw...that there is NO accountability...have zero restraint on any action they may take. There is no moral dynamic. No inhibitions re any action. It's all equal.


pretty sure they've done studies and atheists are the least violent population group (by religion) in the US
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26697 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:31 am to
He was talking about YOUR people, the Lefty Loons. The ones that need to be locked up.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26697 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:33 am to
Not lately they aren't. That sure isn't Southern Baptists wearing masks and flying the Hammer and Sickle. That wasn't a follower of Jesus in Las Vegas, and it seems like the Texas idiot wasn't there to pray.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:35 am to
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He was talking about YOUR people


No he wasn't. He doesn't know what he was talking about.

Neither do you. It's emotional nonsense from you, and nothing more.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49517 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:36 am to
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.the nihilistic Philosophy of Atheism is an essential incubator for this type of action. People who believe that it's 'one and done', that their present lot in life (having NO future) is not determined by THEIR beliefs/actions but by the luck of the draw...that there is NO accountability...have zero restraint on any action they may take. There is no moral dynamic. No inhibitions re any action. It's all equal.


This is a good a synopsis of the current situation we have in America as I have read anywhere.

Well done.

Back when religion was honored - even by the atheists - the culture had an automatic dampening factor that prevented run-away dysfunction. Now that religion is mocked and openly attacked, that dampening factor has been removed - the lowest moral degradation imaginable is allowed to co-exist with normal people and there is a huge political component that is trying to make the degradation seem 'normal.'

The prog filth is responsible for this moral morass we have fallen into - and they rejoice in it - they see it as further encouragement that they are 'winning' - damn the consequences.
Posted by Synchronicity
Member since Nov 2017
505 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:40 am to
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The prog filth is responsible for this moral morass we have fallen into - and they rejoice in it - they see it as further encouragement that they are 'winning' - damn the consequences.


Like pigs in slop.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39638 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19558 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:45 am to
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Getting drummed out of the military doesn't mean it was ' dishonorable'.


BCD is a punitive discharge, it would be marked as "Dishonorable" on the DD214. The ATF rules are specific to Dishonorable Discharges, the only other type of punitive discharge, and as such a BCD is not a bar from firearms possession.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476502 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:47 am to
y'all are making the same sample biases that anti-gun people do with these shootings. you're amplifying the statistical relevance of these mass killing incidents to create your platform for your personal beliefs. mass killings are still a very small % of our total violence, and the vast majority of violent crimes are committed by religious people. we're also the most violent developed nation while also being the most religious developed nation.

i understand your arguments are sincere, but they're illogical and just wrong
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