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re: Man opens fire in OK restaurant; armed citizen shoots, kills him

Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:12 pm to
Wonder how much time this story gets on the MSM....
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28139 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:12 pm to
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I'm all for defense, but is this legally accurate? Seems more vigilante to me if the citizen confronted him


Well, I always carry my pistol into restaurants,in case my steak is too rare. I hate trying to cut it up while it's still moving around.
As I am going in the door,this guy comes running out with a gun,WTF am I supposed to do?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:14 pm to
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Sounds like murder right?

No. How so??
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19104 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:14 pm to
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You down for armed citizens running down criminals and shooting them? They aren't a threat if they are leaving.

I mean he could have forgotten a clip and walked to his car to get one and turned around to walk back in. I don't know. If that was the case then fire away. He's a threat


So there you are, armed in the parking lot when an armed criminal runs into the parking lot after shooting up a restaurant, what are you going to do? Are you going to shoot him dead or stand around and try to determine his intentions? You gonna wait to see if he needs more ammo first? What are you going to do when it’s you or him?
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

I'm all for defense, but is this legally accurate? Seems more vigilante to me if the citizen confronted him


Why do you hate American lives?
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1277 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:16 pm to
The bad guy was a threat to anyone he encountered based on his previous actions. He doesn’t have to be actively shooting at others to make him a threat. The potential to do more harm to innocents is there - he did it once he can do it again. Thank God he is gone
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:16 pm to


If you are in the parking lot, how do you know what just happened inside the restaurant?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61328 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:16 pm to
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Man opens fire in OK restaurant; armed citizen shoots, kills him


Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:16 pm to
I mean I can agree with that.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61328 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:17 pm to
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You down for armed citizens running down criminals and shooting them? They aren't a threat if they are leaving.


That is a fricking stupid statement. HE JUST SHOT A PERSON YOU frickING DUMBASS. Of course he is a threat!!!
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 9:18 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:19 pm to
Well put sir!
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28139 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:20 pm to
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If you are in the parking lot, how do you know what just happened inside the restaurant?


Why would I need to know that? Is he running in my direction with a gun in his hand?

He fricked,or I am.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:21 pm to
But you don't know that. You are in the parking lot. I just meant I wasnt sure this would hold up in a court of law. Send like you would have to prove somehow that you knew a guy shot up a restaurant that you werent even in.

Maybe it does hold up as self defense. I don't know.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:22 pm to


Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:24 pm to
That's not the way it read. It said he was confronted by an armed citizen.

If the guy confronts you, shoot him. You have every right. I agree with that.

Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

But if the guy was leaving, I don't think legally you have a case. Sounds like murder right?


Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16632 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:25 pm to
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If you are in the parking lot, how do you know what just happened inside the restaurant?


Gunshots are loud, moron.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22977 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:29 pm to
And? That proves absolutely nothing.

You going to confront someone who just robbed a bank,shoot them, and say you heard gunshots and thought they killed someone? My question was does that hold up in a court of law? Can you answer that?

The key sentence to me was the citizen confronted the criminal.

If the criminal confronts you, do what you have to. I agree with that.
Posted by BogeyGolf
Minot
Member since Nov 2016
974 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:34 pm to
You are over analyzing a very simple situation.

A thug, a clear danger to society, received instant justice as he was eliminated in the act by a brave, regular American Joe.

Thug is no longer a danger to society.

American Joe did a great job of protecting society.



Don’t over think this Paper.
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