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re: Make Mental Institutions Great Again?

Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:02 am to
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It’s not my place to make decisions like this for other adults.


This statement proves to me that you do not live in reality. The world is filled with adults who cannot make proper decisions and need help in doing so.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20650 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:05 am to
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Watch how many petty crimes like that stop when we start making these people get the help they ignore.

This is so incredibly true.

The fact is that 90% of the crime is committed by 10% of the population and if we lock them up during their crime committing years crime statistics will absolutely plummet.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:08 am to
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don't think. I know

You believe.....
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She recently made a bed out of pallets in the driveway of a house I am remodeling. She took the pallets from a gas station. The pallets belonged to the coke bottling facility and were set aside for them to pick up.

Ok did you let the bottling plant or store know their pallets were stolen?

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am sure that it is a coincidence that at the same time she built this pallet house in my driveway, some graffiti showed up on the side of the house and the concrete walk in front of the driveway.

It could have been her or someone else. You not got a ring camera or something up even with all this concern?

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The cops told me there is no jail space, so all they can do is issue her a citation. She has done stints in jail but always ends up back up to her old tricks. Jail is not help for her, nor is it a deterrent.

So there is room sometimes in jail but not when you call?

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would take an idiot to think she did not paint the graffiti. She painted no trespassing on both trying to lay claim to the driveway as her makeshift pallet house.


I think she most likely did but the legal system isn't built on what people think it's built on what can be proven.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:10 am to
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This statement proves to me that you do not live in reality. The world is filled with adults who cannot make proper decisions and need help in doing so.

Self determination for SOME!
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:12 am to
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Seems like a giant overreach.

It's really not, I've worked in inner city rehabs when I was in college.

They were all better off there than on the streets.

Have you ever smelled a 400 lb homeless guy with diabetes who's soaked in pee and his foot is rotting?

I have.

That's given me nightmares for more than a decade.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:17 am to
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I've worked in inner city rehabs when I was in college.


And you think the federal government should dictate how they operate?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63273 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:17 am to
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I’ll tell you what boy wonder: go find a schizophrenic person
Let me tell you something, ignorant fgt, I have. MANY times, someone close to be who is CURRENTLY a schizo meth head living on the streets of Dallas. He cannot be reasoned with, refuses any kind of treatment and doesn't even acknowledge anything that contradicts his delusions. I even watched him have a conversation with the air to the left of me, when I was standing right in front of him. It's an agonizing situation and at this point, I'm just waiting for someone to call me and tell me he's dead.

And I STILL don't want the government to have the power described in the OP. There is a lot they can do now but simply refuse to, and these new proposed powers WILL be abused, if not by Trump, et al, certainly for the next dem or RINO that gets in.

For frick's sake, giving the shrinks legal power that supersedes the criminal justice system is literally one of the official stated goals of communism.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
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Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:17 am to
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Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179696 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:18 am to
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Ok did you let the bottling plant or store know their pallets were stolen?


My cleanup crew returned them to the gas station. Thanks for your concern

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It could have been her or someone else. You not got a ring camera or something up even with all this concern?


Yeah, man. The same neighbors who were supposedly excited that I bought a dilapidated house to improve their neighborhood went out and sprayed graffiti the very same day a homeless drug addict built a pallet house. Just a coincidence, right? You're a stupid person.

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So there is room sometimes in jail but not when you call?


I never call the police unless there’s a real issue. Currently, I don’t have any issues with her because she’s moved on since I have a crew there working every day. However, the two times I did have to call about her, the LCPD told me exactly what I posted. You’re welcome to call them yourself if you’d like. Just so you know, there’s no city jail, so the LCPD has to send people to the Calcasieu Parish jail. FYI. Her name is Danielle.

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I think she most likely did but the legal system isn't built on what people think it's built on what can be proven.



How very profound of you, but why are you so focused on trying to disprove that she’s a nuisance?


Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
179696 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:20 am to
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And I STILL don't want the government to have the power described in the OP. There is a lot they can do now but simply refuse to, and these new proposed powers WILL be abused, if not by Trump, et al, certainly for the next dem or RINO that gets in.

For frick's sake, giving the shrinks legal power that supersedes the criminal justice system is literally one of the official stated goals of communism.


We should do nothing to fix it out of fear that powers could potentially be abused?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:20 am to
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This statement proves to me that you do not live in reality. The world is filled with adults who cannot make proper decisions and need help in doing so.


Offering too much help leads to dependence and reluctance to change. This is where we are right now with the "homeless epidemics."

We have plenty of programs for these folks, they refuse to make necessary changes to fit into these programs.

Forced treatment will lead to massive abuse. You're better off letting people die by their own doing than trying to save all of them.

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67567 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:24 am to
Laying the groundwork for “disappearing” inconvenient people… at the whim of the government.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6172 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:24 am to
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And you think the federal government should dictate how they operate?

I 100% think the federal government should be sending the drug using homeless to institutions.
And I don't count weed as a drug.

When someone is on hard drugs, especially opioids, they no longer have human rights.
Not because the government has then them away, but because the opioid addiction has taken them away.
It takes over their mind and personality, it makes their body literally crave the next hit.

They don't want to be addicted, and they need to detox.
No one wants that life.

Detox cannot be done on the streets, there is no such thing as a safe drug zone.
They need to be brought into rehabs, and I am 100% for my tax dollars going to rehabs.
And those rehabs need to keep patients in house for months, as it takes a long time to break free of the influence.

It's why rehab fails so many, a few weeks and then back to the same life that you had.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6172 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:25 am to
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“disappearing” inconvenient people

A quarter of a million inconvenient Americans quietly and permanently disappeared in the last 5 years due to Fentanyl.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10458 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:26 am to
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You believe.....

quote:She recently made a bed out of pallets in the driveway of a house I am remodeling. She took the pallets from a gas station. The pallets belonged to the coke bottling facility and were set aside for them to pick up.

Ok did you let the bottling plant or store know their pallets were stolen?

quote:am sure that it is a coincidence that at the same time she built this pallet house in my driveway, some graffiti showed up on the side of the house and the concrete walk in front of the driveway. It could have been her or someone else.

You not got a ring camera or something up even with all this concern?

quote:The cops told me there is no jail space, so all they can do is issue her a citation. She has done stints in jail but always ends up back up to her old tricks. Jail is not help for her, nor is it a deterrent.

So there is room sometimes in jail but not when you call?

quote:would take an idiot to think she did not paint the graffiti. She painted no trespassing on both trying to lay claim to the driveway as her makeshift pallet house.

I think she most likely did but the legal system isn't built on what people think it's built on what can be proven.

And now the system will allow for her petty criminal vagrant arse to be picked up and put in a mental hospital for her own good and the good of society.

Too bad that bothers you so much you contrarian cocksucker. You can either cope or keep melting. Either way, frick off.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:27 am to
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Yeah there’s no way this would be abused

Which is better

Homeless under a bridge or in a place with a roof, 3 meals a day, climate control and at least some medical care
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179696 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:32 am to
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And those rehabs need to keep patients in house for months, as it takes a long time to break free of the influence


The relapse rate for opioid addiction in the first year is over 95%



Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63273 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:32 am to
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We should do nothing to fix it out of fear that powers could potentially be abused?

We should use the powers we already have but never seem to use.

You know drugs and camping out on the street is illegal, right?
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:34 am to
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My cleanup crew returned them to the gas station. Thanks for your concern

Very nice of them. Way to be good citizens.

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Yeah, man. The same neighbors who were supposedly excited that I bought a dilapidated house to improve their neighborhood went out and sprayed graffiti the very same day a homeless drug addict built a pallet house. Just a coincidence, right? You're a stupid person.


Coulda been a friend of hers. Coulda been another homeless, probably was her. But I understand why police couldn't do much but treasoass her as well.

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never call the police unless there’s a real issue. Currently, I don’t have any issues with her because she’s moved on since I have a crew there working every day.

Oh so without mental health institutions she's moved on all on her own no big government needed?

Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5940 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:34 am to
There are no powers to compel an adult to seek mental health treatment unless they are criminally insane. They can simply walk out and become a danger to society
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