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re: Make adoption mandatory.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:53 am to DocSavage
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:53 am to DocSavage
This is a great idea because we get to see just how pro-life some of you really are. Something tells me that once it actually affects you, you suddenly won't care as much about the life of a fetus.
That being said, it's one of the worst ideas anyone has ever had.
That being said, it's one of the worst ideas anyone has ever had.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:54 am
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:54 am to CC
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And progtards don’t care that busting a nut might have consequences.
The intentional ignorance in the posts here is sometimes stunning. Teen birth out of wedlock is not a large problem among the college bound population.
Almost all of the temporary receptionists we hire already have at least one young kid. Conservative church going girls, all of them. They also have conservative working class baby daddies that don’t support them.
These are not political progressives. These are people who are, as a group, keeping themselves down.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:57 am to Tesla
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So my question is, what could the foster parents have done differently for you not to be a "shithead" until 16?
Well, alot of it is actually caring about the kids to some degree. I feel like foster care parents are vetted out alot more now then back then. What got me out of being a shithead was the last foster home I was placed in, I still call them my mom and dad because they actually cared about me. If it wasnt for them I dont know where I'd be.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:00 am to TBoy
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Almost all of the temporary receptionists we hire already have at least one young kid. Conservative church going girls, all of them. They also have conservative working class baby daddies that don’t support them.
bullshite
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:05 am to Muleriderhog
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Well, alot of it is actually caring about the kids to some degree. I feel like foster care parents are vetted out alot more now then back then. What got me out of being a shithead was the last foster home I was placed in, I still call them my mom and dad because they actually cared about me. If it wasnt for them I dont know where I'd be.
I'm glad you got to the right folks eventually. I worry that foster kids are income to some people. Your Mom and Dad should be celebrated.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
What I'm trying to have a conversation about is whether we as a country should make getting unwanted births adopted as quickly as possible a priority. The details are up for debate obviously, but I feel that any anti-abortion stance should be paired with a plan to compassionately place the unwanted births with families asap so as to limit emotional and mental damage to the child. The reality is that people like sex and unwanted births will always happen. Throwing these children into the grinder of foster care and group homes is just as wrong as abortion on demand. IMHO
My OP was to start a conversation.
To answer, yes I equate civic duties. I feel that if it is a civic duty it doesn't matter the weight of the duty what matters is your character in fulfilling it. Missing jury duty doesn't carry the same weight as caring for a child without a family, obviously. But they both speak to your character.
If you are going to preach life at conception then you must preach no one without a family or you are a hypocrite.
My OP was to start a conversation.
To answer, yes I equate civic duties. I feel that if it is a civic duty it doesn't matter the weight of the duty what matters is your character in fulfilling it. Missing jury duty doesn't carry the same weight as caring for a child without a family, obviously. But they both speak to your character.
If you are going to preach life at conception then you must preach no one without a family or you are a hypocrite.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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keep reading the thread
I have but I'm sorry the response about hundreds of thousands of kids in foster care has basically nothing to do with infants. Infants for lack of a better phrase fly off the shelves regardless of race as long as they are healthy.
Moreover 460,000 which is the current number give or take includes a majority of children who will just end up back with their parents.
With that in mind and a nation of our size the number in foster care is remarkably small. We don't have an adoption problem in America and the entire rhetoric around but black babies is quite simply bullshite.
People mention Russia in here but there's a shite ton of children being adopted from places like Ethiopia too. My friend has three of them and he's white
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:11 am to Tesla
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I'm glad you got to the right folks eventually. I worry that foster kids are income to some people. Your Mom and Dad should be celebrated.
They are, I think it's gotten better now then back when I was in the system. Yeah they are the best people I know, they are how I try to base my parenting on.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:12 am to TBoy
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Almost all of the temporary receptionists we hire already have at least one young kid. Conservative church going girls, all of them. They also have conservative working class baby daddies that don’t support them
Yes we get it. Liberals had actually come to convince themselves that teen pregnancy is mostly well off Christian girls
You people are retarded
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:13 am to mahdragonz
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There are hundreds of thousands of children waiting to be adopted.
What about them...right now?
Far more people wanting and waiting to adopt at any given time than there are kids looking to be adopted or kids who have been aborted.
ETA: There is no "lack of people wanting to adopt" problem.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:14 am to DocSavage
No. We should do the opposite and make adoption totally free market.
The day after birth you post the details and supporting documents and photographs the following day:
BILLY...Mother is 5-6, 120. Blonde hair, blue eyes, IQ of 130. Nursing degree from SMU. Father is 6-1, 180. Brown hair, green eyes, IQ of 135. Engineering degree from Cal Tech.
Bidding will start at $50,000
MARY...Mother is 5-1, 260. Brown weave, brown eyes, IQ of 89. 9th grade education.
Father is unknown but thought to be 5-9, 240 (it was dark that night).
Bidding will start at $3.
The day after birth you post the details and supporting documents and photographs the following day:
BILLY...Mother is 5-6, 120. Blonde hair, blue eyes, IQ of 130. Nursing degree from SMU. Father is 6-1, 180. Brown hair, green eyes, IQ of 135. Engineering degree from Cal Tech.
Bidding will start at $50,000
MARY...Mother is 5-1, 260. Brown weave, brown eyes, IQ of 89. 9th grade education.
Father is unknown but thought to be 5-9, 240 (it was dark that night).
Bidding will start at $3.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:16 am to Tesla
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I worry that foster kids are income to some people.
This may be the case for some people, but they aren't living a very fruitful life if they're trying to make it just on foster care income.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:20 am to imjustafatkid
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This may be the case for some people, but they aren't living a very fruitful life if they're trying to make it just on foster care income.
Those are the exact ones I'm worried about.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:22 am to TenWheelsForJesus
You are being forced to pay now through taxfunded programs that don't work and through the effects damaged/abandoned individuals have on your society's safety and security.
All I'm putting forward is that we do it effectively.
All I'm putting forward is that we do it effectively.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:24 am to Muleriderhog
Intellectually lazy argument.
Just because prisons are full doesn't mean we start issuing the death penalty for more crimes...and the unborn children never actually did anything wrong.
Just because prisons are full doesn't mean we start issuing the death penalty for more crimes...and the unborn children never actually did anything wrong.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:26 am to DocSavage
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All I'm putting forward is that we do it effectively
Effectively?
We don't currently have a problem getting infants adopted. Why would we force the infants on some people? I mean are we going to show any regard for the actual child in this transaction?
If I have five people waiting to adopt a child who desperately want it, why would I skip over to the six person and hand the baby to them?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:38 am to Tesla
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Those are the exact ones I'm worried about.
I guess it's possible, but it would be hard to do that these days. There are soooo many checks on foster homes. They over-police foster parents these days.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:38 am to Esquire
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let’s make divorce illegal too.
Ok.
Let's just do this with thoughtfulness and make selfishness illegal.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:44 am to DocSavage
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Let social services review income and background and place children with families as a civic duty. You are contacted by a case manager and informed that you will be made responsible for the child. A penalty is paid, if you refuse, that goes to the child. If you agree, the child receives free health care for life and you are income tax exempt until the child is 25. Only once per household. Thoughts?
That's thinking outside the box but it's unnecessary at this time because they're folks waiting to adopt newborns. I have a better idea, if you Prog/Dim leftists like open borders with hordes of illegals pouring into the country maybe y'all should show your compassion by sponsoring these people you're so concerned with......what do ya say? Take a few into your homes.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:51 am to Tesla
In state adoptions cost virtually nothing
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