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re: Maduro is Calling Trump’s Bluff - Now What?

Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:53 pm to
Trump has weighed the cost/benefit consequences of action/non-action down there, in confronting the CCP hegemony re SA. And he has chosen; kinda like firing Kelly and jumping in. Who knows what manner of military action will be undertaken, but there is a lot of options far short of boots on the ground and massive expenditures which are not offset by the costly long run scenarios (CCP on our Border sooner or later) that non-action assures.

Trump should Sub this out to the Israelis; they are very efficient and if Maduro even suspected such an action he'd bail tomorrow. Otherwise he'd get a missile on his desk and it would all be over.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35451 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:02 pm to
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This buildup under Operation Southern Spear (officially framed as a “counter-narcotics” effort) has clear ulterior motives tied to regime change against Nicolás Maduro. There can be no other explanation.

The secondary and tertiary possible effects of our intervention to produce regime change should ALWAYS be thoroughly examined. For example, how does the surrounding region react to the presence of Maduro, vs. what their reaction will predictably be in his absence?

I learned a lot after seeing the abortion that the already "dumpster-fire" middle east became after we forced Saddam out.

I am admittedly agnostic on the geopolitical atmosphere of that area of South America, and any insight would be appreciated.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:04 pm to
You tell me what we are doing. Are we doing regime change or drug interdiction? I have no idea.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Trump will order an invasion if Maduro doesn’t leave.

For what reason? There are bad guys around the globe.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15067 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:08 pm to
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hope we don’t risk one Soldier’s life because we don’t like the government in a country that supplies less than 4% of illegal drugs into our country.


I just got through reading how cocaine prices are skyrocketing due to what we are doing so it's working.

I was in the US Navy, so I've seen what we can do. We could take out their military and radar also their energy grid while sitting a few hundred miles off shore.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:13 pm to
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was in the US Navy, so I've seen what we can do. We could take out their military and radar also their energy grid while sitting a few hundred miles off shore.

So we are going to do this.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15067 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:15 pm to
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So we are going to do this.


If need be we absolutely can. Venezuela military compared to ours is like a 3yr old fighting the MMA world champion
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42147 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:17 pm to
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On behalf of some young paratrooper in the 82nd, I hope you’re right.


You served in the 82nd?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:17 pm to
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If need be we absolutely can. Venezuela military compared to ours is like a 3yr old fighting the MMA world champion


Yeah I suspect so. We could take out Columbia and Ecuador while we are at it. So why are we doing this to Venezuela? Can we circle back around to Nicaragua or Cuba? This wan't talked about during the election.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42147 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Are we doing regime change or drug interdiction? I have no idea.


Yes
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Yes


Our rogue president and his administration? Oh well, I trust in Marco so there's that.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2330 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:22 pm to
Of all stupid threads you have started, this one will be my favorite.

You progressives sure do love to project your thirst for war unto your enemy. It is hilarious to watch.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42147 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:24 pm to
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We could take out Columbia and Ecuador while we are at it. So why are we doing this to Venezuela?


Good question.

I would hazard a guess, but it would only be speculative.

One thing is for sure…it isn’t simply because he is a socialist dictator, or because he oversees an oil rich nation (especially considering how much that we supposedly are churning out).

I don’t believe that the primary reason is oil, or drugs.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:33 pm to
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I don’t believe that the primary reason is oil, or drugs.


I suspect Trump believes they threw the 2020 election. They just need to tell us that. But then he would be scoffed at by the MSM and democrats. They'd never admit there was a problem with the record breaking (in terms of votes) 2020 election.

And maybe there is a collusion amongst the Russians, Iranians, Chinese and Cubanos down there.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15067 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:35 pm to
One perfectly placed cruise missile going through Maduro front door may just change his mind
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16851 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Russia and China watch how the administration reacts to these situations to gauge their conduct in dealing with the U.S.


Always the RINO justification for war.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125442 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:36 pm to
Yeah. The dot connecting isn’t a difficult exercise.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125442 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:38 pm to
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For what reason? There are bad guys around the globe.


Pretty sure you’ve been on the regime change bandwagon more than once.

Not enough money in this one for your company?
Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
Member since Mar 2025
303 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Venezuela people hate Maduro. there's a pro US coalition ready to take over once Maduro leaves.


I've seen this movie before

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March 16, 2003: 'I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we wlll, in fact, be greeted as liberators,' then-US Vice President Dick Cheney tells NBC's Meet the Press
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22589 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Not enough money in this one for your company?


Retired and living off the glorious stock market. There is a reason we are doing this and nobody on this board knows why. It's just a thought I can't shake.
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