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re: M1 Abrams Tanks Are Coming To Ukraine: Too Hard To Use?

Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47136 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:25 pm to


This is why I hate top / bottom of the hour 'news updates'. I heard a quick soundbite of one guy claiming it would take days. Which on the face of it sound ridiculous. Yet it got reported anyways.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:28 pm to
I can’t even think about this until they come up with green, eco-friendly, all-electric tanks. I’ve actually been shaking over this. Literally shaking.
Posted by DawgRebelinAL
Confederate States
Member since Feb 2022
524 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:44 pm to
Until they hit AT mines, barrages of ATGMs and get hit with artillery. Russians aren't going to try and engage tank for tank.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:53 pm to
It will be an interesting decision by the operator of a simple armed drone. Does he try dropping one down the hatch of an Abrams while its refueling or what I would do is hit the massive highly flammable fuel truck filling it.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:18 pm to
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Abrams


Typical DoD design-by-committee shitshow.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8168 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:20 pm to
Well since it's the best tank in the world, I guess they did a pretty good job.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Well since it's the best tank in the world, I guess they did a pretty good job.


Doubt it
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8168 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:23 pm to
which other tank would you rather be in if you were facing off against an Abrams?
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:25 pm to
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Burning or abandoned Abrams on the battlefields would be an embarrassment
.

I think about two thirds of the 150 or so M1 Abrams that we sent to the Iraqi Army were destroyed, captured, or inoperable within months fighting ISIS.

I don't recall the Obama administration being too embarrassed by that fact.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15751 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:13 pm to
Meh
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:54 pm to
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Regardless you have made my point that numbers will overcome a superior tank.


The vast majority of German tanks were Mark III and IV's that were decidedly not superior to the opposition. Especially the T34.

You should just stop now.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1932 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:57 pm to
They run on diesel too.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19305 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:22 pm to
M1 is run by jet fuel not diesel
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:59 pm to
What fuels can the Abrams run on?
Abrams is a multifuel vehicle, commonly it uses diesel. Its 1,500hp Honeywell turbine engine can burn a variety of fuels including diesel, jet fuel, gasoline, and marine diesel.


Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30485 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:07 pm to
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40k tanks total. I didn't say they lost 40k panzers and tigers.

Regardless you have made my point that numbers will overcome a superior tank.


You seem to be discounting The Battle of the Valley of Tears and the Battle of 73 Easting. Especially the former shows your premise is less than solid.
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