re: LSU NOLA Med School Entrance Requirements

Why apply to one school and put all your eggs in one basket all you people worry about is DEI and WOKE . Maybe in the interview he admitted he is a Trump supporter that will disqualify you on the spot .

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They have made the tests more difficult to compensate for pass/fail, which they claim has caused a larger percent to fail.

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No. The test is basically unchanged.

They reset the fail rate to a slightly higher test score. Though the NBME doesn't release the exact number of correct responses required to pass the exam (and it varies slightly y-to-y), generally out of 280 questions, around 180 correct responses were required to pass the old scored version, while the threshold appears to have been raised to ~190 correct responses for the P/F version.

The reason for raising the threshold is borderline scores, though technically passing, served as "warning signs" in the old system. So it was logical to up the pass-fail threshold slightly in compensation.

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Point being is the system is working, weeding out the unqualified.

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Misleading, and untrue.

The application process itself (flawed/unfair as it may be) weeds out the unqualified. These discussions about admission standards are about who is better qualified, not whether "unqualified" applicants are being accepted.

Medical School admission remains very competitive.

The system commits several hundred thousand dollars per MD to educate and train them. So it's a matter of the system not wasting that money. Unlike law school, where academic attrition thins the ranks, admission to MedSchool carries a high system expectation (>99%) of completion through both medschool and post-grad training. That has not changed.

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The more pertinent question is why the transition to P/F at all? The answer centers on academic "haves" and "have-nots" comparisons. The underpinning rests with "name-brand" programs seeking advantage for their grads in pursuit of top residencies. E.g., All else being equal, does a top residency accept a Harvard Grad w/ a middling class rank and 80th% NBME test scores, or an LSU Grad with a top 5 class rank and 95th% testing? Increasingly, the non-name-brand candidates were winning those battles. So "elite" schools solved the problem by eliminating grades (and thus class rank) muddying the comparison.

Still, when state schools followed suit, moving away from grades/class rank, those pesky NBMEs offered some degree of comparison. So the "elites" pressured the NBME to get rid of those as well. Now top residencies are limited to taking a candidate from an "elite school" with all passing marks vs one from a state school with the same marks. The paradigm is shifted away from the individual and back to where he/she went to school.

Meanwhile, as was pointed out earlier, the same subjectivity of DEI admission translates to justifying admission of an underqualified applicant whose Mommy/Daddy have influence and/or money.

baybeefeetz wants an all female flight crew.

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If you want to pretend that chicks and POC aren’t getting preferential treatment in med school admission

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Do chicks need preferential treatment? I think they are dominating academics on their own.

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The context is that if a white man doesn’t get what he wants, the only possible explanation is DEI.

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Yikes!
Really?



BTW among med school matriculants, women underperform men in MCAT Scores, Pre-med Sciences GPA, and substantially in terms of career service and longevity.

That's some of the context.

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Oh I’m sure OP has already blamed women for this white dude’s inability to get into his school of choice.

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Well, a minute ago you seemed sure there was no contextual basis for the OP's lament at all.

Look, two things can be right at once. (1) Only qualified applicants are accepted, and (2) the OP's relative was subjected to race and gender bias.

To deny the latter occurs, and is commonplace in the post-grad acceptance process, is to deny the sky is blue on a clear day. Now there may be a well-intended, rational purpose for gender/race influence selection. That purpose is worth discussion. But to deny the fact of its existence is duplicitous.

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There are always excuses made for white men. No other demographic gets the privilege of excusing their mediocrity or failures.

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Bahahahahahahahaha

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Do chicks need preferential treatment?

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“Need” isn’t the right word. They are getting it, still, when it comes to med school admission.

Legacies shouldn't have any advantage over anyone else.