re: LSU NOLA Med School Entrance Requirements

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#1 Biochem is not "ridiculously easy."

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For a decently strong student that puts in effort yes it is, at least now.

Even engineering has gotten significantly easier, so it’s not just a science thing.

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#2 A >4.0 is not "ridiculously easy" in any curriculum, much less biochem.

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Ironic that magically it happens more often now by a significant margin and you all can’t understand why. Grade inflation is real and I see it daily, so I will trust my own eyes.

Again, can a moron get. Perfect GPA? No. Can a pretty strong student get it, even in the mighty biosciences? Yes and without much difficulty.

It’s not the kids fault they have lowered standards. All schools have done it and you can thank the Princeton and Harvards of the worlds for it.

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#3 A 95% MCAT score is not ridiculously easy.

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Never claimed that at all. I referenced his GPA. The MCAT is a decent metric but by no means fool proof. Plenty of applicants (any race so don’t say I am claiming racism) struggle on it because of the format and style. You study for the test more so than the material. Again, it’s important and useful, but not a slam dunk on if the kid is qualified.

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Correct. So why the other BS responses?

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Claiming that GPA and MCAT alone aren’t getting a kid into school is what I said. The OP and others are the ones claiming the only logical reason is DEI.

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Good point. So they’re not making any changes to the step exams. Right?

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Some groups have tried, but no, it remains as stated above. It is a standardized test, and today there are much better study aids due to the internet, but people are still failing.

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So you would be bitching when all the doctors are Asian and Indian if that logic was used.

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It’s unclear if you know what logic is.

I do know that the average MCAT score of the 19,644 white applicants’ for 24-25 is higher than the average MCAT scores of the 1,627 African American matriculants for 24–25 for US granting MD schools.

You’ll see similar results comparing white applicants’ GPAs to AA matriculants.

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but people are still failing.

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Cool. What’s the average step 1 score for last year?

I’m aware. :)
My daughter’s class was the last of the numbered Step 1 scores.

Stressful days and nights (and perhaps $1k in tutoring).

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It's now P/F

8% fail rate

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They have made the tests more difficult to compensate for pass/fail, which they claim has caused a larger percent to fail. My feeling is you have a few more under qualified students who weren’t ready for the rigors of med school.

Point being is the system is working, weeding out the unqualified. The crime here is these under qualified students are paying/borrowing money for a profession many will never attain. There are very few large grants for tuition available, and add cost of living, you can easily be out of pocket/ borrowing 60-80k a year. Say it takes them 3 years to figure out they won’t make it, that’s minimum $180k for nothing. Private med school 3 years is more like $300k minimum with living expenses.
Putting people in that situation isn’t helping them, it’s crushing them.

Well, you’re making progress towards reality. Keep it up, buckaroo.

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I thought LSU had to end its entrance based on race, gender diversity etc. I have a nephew who made a 518 on MCAT and can't get into NOLA. I'm no expert on MCAT but that score is over 95th percentile what I can see. Maybe LSU NOLA hasn't read the supreme court ruling on this stuff.

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Is he an instate resident? I forget the exact details, but around 90-95% of all the LSU med school slots are reserved for Louisiana residents. If you are outside of Louisiana you must have a really good resume. They can hand pick the small amount of out of state applicants. I am pretty sure some other states do this too. If he is a Louisiana resident then my guess is he bombed the application or interview. It’s possible this happened. LSU also has rolling admissions so if he was even a little late applying the slots could have already been filled. They look at the applications in the order they come in. Once the spots are filled you might be wait listed.

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Good point. He might have said something like “there’s two genders” in his interview. They asked a gender question to one of my daughters’ friends. He didn’t give the PC answer. He didn’t get accepted.


Yeah I’d probably make up a story like this as well if I didn’t get into a med school I wanted…..

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This is the best post in this thread. Upvote forthwith.

My cousin was turned down from Xavier Pharmacy School because she was white. My uncle is friends with one of the administrators and they confirmed that her being white was the reason. This was before the Supreme Court ruled against quotas.