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re: Lower and Middle Class America has declined over the past 50 years
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:38 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:38 am to Robin Masters
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Actually that is reality. You should get out more.
The reality you speak of is a few generations of bad decision-making because they refused to adapt and then the pathologies of bad economies took hold.
It's the same thing we used to talk about with black people and inner city pathologies and economic turmoil pre-Trump era on here. It's just now that it's white people, y'all seem to be freaking out disproportionately.
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You like most people have made an emotional decision
No.
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based on lizard brain compulsion to acquire more for less.
Not me, specifically. I understand how this has been more economically productive for our entire society, however. That's being rational.
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You are now trying to rationalize your basic evolutionary instinct with unfounded logic and economic quackery.
You can frame the rationality to protect your emotionality all you want, but it doesn't change reality.
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's the same thing we used to talk about with black people and inner city pathologies and economic turmoil pre-Trump era on here. It's just now that it's white people, y'all seem to be freaking out disproportionately.
Lol and the same lies were told by the same people with the same outcome.
You’re so close to being self aware!
I know the rush you get on a Saturday morning with a full rascal basket of shite is hard to give up but sometimes my friend, less is actually more.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:43 am to Robin Masters
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Lol and the same lies were told by the same people with the same outcome.
The lies that good decision-making leads to better results in the aggregate?
You think that's a lie? Why, exactly?
Or that it is on-productive and inefficient economically to take from good decision-makers to subsidize bad decision makers? You think that's wrong? Why, exactly?
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I know the rush you get on a Saturday morning with a full rascal basket of shite i
Your ad homs are hilariously aimless and wrong.
I drive a 10-year old car and avoid mass consumerism, generally.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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The lies that good decision-making leads to better results in the aggregate? You think that's a lie? Why, exactly? Or that it is on-productive and inefficient economically to take from good decision-makers to subsidize bad decision makers? You think that's wrong? Why, exactly?
No, the lies that led to the poor outcomes. Globalization, socialism, et al.
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Your ad homs are hilariously aimless and wrong. I drive a 10-year old car and avoid mass consumerism, generally.
Look at your post count. You are clearly a “quantity over quality” type of guy.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:52 am to Robin Masters
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No, the lies that led to the poor outcomes. Globalization, socialism, et al.
Jobs are available for these people nationally. The trades have a huge demand for workers right now. No college necessary, just some skill and effort.
Why won't they work to get these jobs?
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Look at your post count.
So you're arguing I save money on consumer goods by..posting over a 20 year period?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:53 am to texag7
Ever since Nixon ended the gold standard.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:54 am to texag7
Those jobs are never coming back. Ai will be doing them.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Jobs are available for these people nationally. The trades have a huge demand for workers right now. No college necessary, just some skill and effort. Why won't they work to get these jobs?
Which we have stigmatized to the point of scarcity due to the aforementioned globalization rhetoric the insistence of you and yours that these jobs are “beneath” us. Please stop with the obtuse mental judo. It’s pathetically obvious.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 10:58 am to RollTide4Ever
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Those jobs are never coming back. Ai will be doing them.
A person I know who's really, really plugged into the cutting edge tech industry said this the other day for college bound students: your major better involve hardware at some level. If 100% of your job is moving electrons around via a keyboard it's going to get ugly over the next 5 years.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:02 am to texag7
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In income and purchasing power. Inflation steadily increasing too. And the entire time jobs and manufacturing being shipped overseas for decades. Can someone explain here how keeping our medicine and chip manufacturing overseas and continuing to get fricked over will help these Americans? shite hasn’t changed in decades…
This is why Trump got elected, it’s why the tariffs are necessary and why it’s abundantly clear that most pundits either don’t know what the consequences of our fiscal and trade policy have been for the average voter or they don’t care.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:02 am to Flats
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A person I know who's really, really plugged into the cutting edge tech industry said this the other day for college bound students: your major better involve hardware at some level. If 100% of your job is moving electrons around via a keyboard it's going to get ugly over the next 5 years.
We’ve 100% backed ourselves into a corner where a large percentage of the population will be on some kind of UBI.
I’d I were a conspiracy minded person I’d suggest it was done by the globalists to ensure a perpetual class of “untouchables”.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:03 am to Robin Masters
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Which we have stigmatized to the point of scarcity due to the aforementioned globalization rhetoric
What?
We're talking about former factory workers, here. Your rant has no place.
Why won't these people take jobs of similar economic status to the ones you're saying they lost?
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the insistence of you and yours that these jobs are “beneath” us.
I've never made this argument.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:04 am to Robin Masters
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We’ve 100% backed ourselves into a corner where a large percentage of the population will be on some kind of UBI.
So your solution is Leftism to give them a job by taking away from the successful?
Why not just have them dig holes and them fill the holes?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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So your solution is Leftism to give them a job by taking away from the successful? Why not just have them dig holes and them fill the holes?
No, my solution is meaningful albeit menial productivity.
Again, your obtuse mental judo is really tiresome. Were you raised by a spinster? You behave like someone who received lots of passive aggressive reinforcement.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 11:12 am
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:12 am to Robin Masters
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No, my solution is meaningful albeit menial productivity.
Describe your solution with detail, then.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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What? We're talking about former factory workers, here. Your rant has no place. Why won't these people take jobs of similar economic status to the ones you're saying they lost?
Funny to watch you put on your sweater vest and play the upright conservative because you think it will help you win an e-argument.
I sometimes wonder why you are universally loathes on here and then I spend 5 min with you and it become obvious/
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Describe your solution with detail, then.
Wtf? Maybe half a dose of adderall tomorrow.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:17 am to tide06
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This is why Trump got elected,
Because voters are simpletons
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:18 am to Taxing Authority
quote:OK.
This is a spending problem.
It's also a legal problem in that "Mandatory" spending, which includes our Debt C-of-C, is approaching 90% of revenue. Discretionary is ~38% of revenue which means with no additional revenue we'd be looking to cut 2/3rds to 3/4th of discretionary spending. An extra $500B in tariff revenue pushed toward that equation would be helpful
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:18 am to texag7
Got to keep them voting democrat!
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