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re: Louisiana special session: Failure.

Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:07 am to
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53018 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:07 am to
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TOPS is a luxury the state can't afford to provide

And the standards are way to low. Some of these kids on tops are so dumb that they have to move to Texas to find a job after school
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112670 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:07 am to
The state GOP is a massive part of the problem. It's as if you pretend that the state legislature is full of a bunch of guys like Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. No. Not even close. It's comprised of a ton of retards who ran on "fighting the Obama agenda" and "family values" whose only mission is to say No to taxes while simultaneously refusing to cut. It's hopeless.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:21 am to
It's The one program for children that incentivised them to achieve, instead of a federal handout program.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53018 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:25 am to
Yeah to achieve more than a 2.0 and a 12 on the act

It basically encourages disruptive poor kids to go to college
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25208 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:29 am to
I don't know who to be more mad at right now. Dipshit platform I hate Obama Republicans who can't govern or the Republicans who voted for JBE
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:34 am to
Fund medicaid at the level before Honor Code showed up and we’ll be fine.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:43 am to
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Louisiana State Government: Failure


FIFY. Always has been, always will be. And it’s the electorate’s fault 100%

Low information, single issue or apathetic voters with 35% voter participation gets you this
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 7:45 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17484 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:57 am to
So, am I supposed to be mad about this? My taxes didn't go up, so I think I am good
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:01 am to
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It's The one program for children that incentivised them to achieve, instead of a federal handout program.


I initially felt that way until they watered down the standards.

We had money when the program started, but we don't now.

Film Tax credit deal also should go. Nursing home regs. should be revised to be more in line with the national trends. We spend too much on nursing home care when folks could be properly cared for at home.

Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:44 am to
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I know that's why it's down, kid. I may fall short in a few areas, but this isn't one. I suggest you take your toys to a different sandbox before you get in over your head, albeit too late

i'll throw the BS flag there

you got some real evidence for that? something good enough to show that it is more to blame than us not having a permian basin + a general fall in prices?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:44 am to
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Yeah to achieve more than a 2.0 and a 12 on the act

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5020 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:54 am to
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Fund medicaid at the level before Honor Code showed up and we’ll be fine.


This + nursing home reform + the $350 million the state is going to get from the federal tax plan + the uptick in oil prices more than balances the budget but the state democratic media will never tell the public this.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 8:54 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98862 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:59 am to
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And what does that have to do with scholarship? Students that excel in high school should be automatically saddled with the cost of college just because their parents are able to afford to live in a place with good schools? Except if theyre female or a minority of course


This is truer than you think.

My son has great grades and test scores and should be eligible for a lot of merit-based scholarships, but in looking at a lot of schools, most financial aid is need based (i.e., it's great you busted arse and have great academic achievements, but your parents make to much too reward you).
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 9:03 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14497 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:06 am to
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Fund medicaid at the level before Honor Code showed up and we’ll be fine.



What part of medicaid would you cut? If a state participates in medicaid there are about a million mandatory benefits they have to provide and a few optional ones.

You really can't just cut 10% off it. Well, you can if you do it to provider rates. But even that has an allowed minimum which we are at.

You can get rid of the expansion, but that won't save you any money for the next few years. And even then it's a relatively small amount due to the 90/10 split.

Best options for medicaid include long term care reform (which could raise ~100 million) and maybe copays. But understand copays are essentially a tax on providers. That could raise anywhere between nothing and $170 million depending on how you do it.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:12 am to
Giving away free public education is unsustainable and will bankrupt the government. Who could have seen that coming?

Louisiana deserves what they are getting right now.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3617 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:16 am to
I love how every small market conservative screams about reducing entitlements until their kid becomes tops eligible. After that the justification begins.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:19 am to
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I love how every small market conservative screams about reducing entitlements until their kid becomes tops eligible. After that the justification begins.



"WTF I love entitlements now"
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14497 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:21 am to
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I love how every small market conservative screams about reducing entitlements until their kid becomes tops eligible. After that the justification begins.


If you see TOPS as just a scholarship program then, I guess. But I see it as a move toward vouchers for higher education. It helps fund the college education of stronger students and gives them choice.

The TOPS requirements, low as they are, are HIGHER than every college entrance requirement other than LSU. So I know that my tax dollars that fund TOPS, as opposed to direct state aid to colleges, are going to qualified students.

Rather than cut TOPS, I think direct state aid should be cut first. Now ideally you fund both. But if it is a choice between them, keep TOPS and fund the better students.



Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:25 am to
yeah if someone has a 300k house, they don't need my money to send their kid to school. Sorry. They can sell and buy something smaller if they want.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:31 am to
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Rather than cut TOPS, I think direct state aid should be cut first.

but TOPS is tied to tuition prices
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