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Louisiana, it's time for a new constitution l Small towns are dead

Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:45 pm
Advocate article

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As bad as the state budget will fare because of a drop in sales tax revenues from closed businesses and high unemployment, the real crisis will be in Louisiana’s parish and municipal governments.

Before the novel coronavirus was a thing, Legislative Auditor Daryl Purpera had a long list of small Louisiana towns so fiscally distressed that the state was on the verge of shoving aside elected local leaders and taking over administration.


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A quick review of last year’s financial audits for about a third of the state’s municipalities shows that smaller communities receive, on average, 59.7% of their annual revenues from sales taxes and that was before businesses went on hiatus and shoppers sheltered in place. Most of these towns have only a few businesses — surely a gas station/convenience store, sometimes a grocery, maybe a pharmacy — generating sales taxes that help pay law enforcement, fix streets, supplement public schools, as well as fund other services.

Compare those numbers to Texas, where small towns rely on sales taxes for about 30% of their revenues. Texas communities also have significant property taxes. Louisiana’s homestead exemption, which forgives the first $75,000 of a home’s value from taxes, means towns can count on property taxes producing an average of about 16% of collected revenues.


we will never have a moment so prescient or focused regarding our deeply flawed constitution

we need a complete overhaul, from how we handle taxation to our political units. there is no reason we need 60+ parishes with all the wasted, overlapping public spending/responsibilities/oversight. we need fewer political units: period.

it's time that we face the fact that our small towns and villages are money pits propped up by what essentially amounts to organized crime

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The number of Louisiana towns, villages and small cities in which fines make up at least half their revenues has risen from 15 in 2007 to more than 25 in 2018, according to a review by The Advocate of annual state audits of local finances.

For 60 other municipalities, fines and forfeitures account for more than 30 percent of government revenues. That’s up from 28 in 2007.

And 194 of the state’s 304 incorporated cities, towns and villages raise more in fines and forfeitures than they do in property taxes, according to latest financial audits.


this is our chance to reset, b/c lord knows there is going to be a lot of hurt across most of LA. oh, and the CARES Act won't help LA

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But right now, the Coronavirus Economic Stabilization Act of 2020 is the main allocation. The only direct federal aid is for counties with 500,000 or more people. That means nothing for Louisiana where only East Baton Rouge and Jefferson parishes come close to the minimum needed.


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John Gallagher said the Louisiana Municipal Association, which he heads, wrote Wednesday asking Gov. John Bel Edwards not to forget local governments when the funds are distributed.

That might prove difficult as the federal money is tied to the coronavirus outbreaks and the smaller communities haven’t suffered the same intensity as the big cities.


Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:50 pm to
Outside of nostalgia, how many parishes are really needed?
Why not use the ldwf map?
There's like 6 sections.

If small towns worry about big cities ruling, carve out areas for nola, ebr, laf, Shreve, lc, and Monroe. There's 12. That's gotta be better than 60.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:54 pm to
Support that. Especially after these parish presidents and mayors are showing their Napoleon complexes.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29241 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:56 pm to
Speed traps finna ratchet up baws...

easy on the accelerators
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:57 pm to
It is past time for a constitutional convention
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25929 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:00 pm to
Constitution is critically needed and it better be as close to Texas/Florida/Tenn as humanly possible as those states have eaten our lunch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Speed traps finna ratchet up baws...

easy on the accelerators

that's what made me think about this. is the entire state going to be a speed trap now?
Posted by Grooler
USA
Member since Dec 2009
484 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:02 pm to
Repeal the homestead exemption and eliminate the income tax. Broaden the sales tax base, and get rid of earmarks.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:03 pm to
Ha. Everything here is essential. Only hairdressers closed. Some small towns are still ROLLING. Like businesses, some should fade away and others shall thrive. shite, LA needs to die. Talking about a shite stain of a state when it comes to politics/gov't. Don't think anyone there denies it either. Sorry the lockdown has cut off your supply of bogus auto accidents claims and "injuries" at businesses. Shoulda been more essential. You get your account hacked? Head injury? Don't seem yourself recently.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57835 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:04 pm to
We can expect lots of new speed trap towns once the highways are open again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421615 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:05 pm to
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Sorry the lockdown has cut off your supply of bogus auto accidents claims and "injuries" at businesses. Shoulda been more essential. You get your account hacked? Head injury? Don't seem yourself recently.



what about less government doesn't sound like me?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25929 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:06 pm to
Start taxing all of the NON-PROFITS in Louisiana because its an enormous number of properties who aren't taxed. In some Parishes the number of non-profits sham entities comprise almost 40% of all the property in that parish.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29919 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:06 pm to
I'm not seeing any claims or concerns listed that indicates the state is kicking in more dollars on some sort of sliding scale basis and making up for revenue shortcomings for the referenced small communities. Looks to me like if a town is hurting from lesser and lesser sales tax and fewer residents to kick in enough property tax.....then that town's just SOL.

Sure, there are surely state allocations that comprise some portion of these communities' budgets, but it probably ain't much. The smaller the town, the smaller the allocation. The state just isn't propping up struggling small towns.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48843 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:09 pm to
Just outlaw any municipal law enforcement under 50k population, it should be the Sheriff handling that.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:10 pm to
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what about less government doesn't sound like me?

Maybe I need to reread the OP. And I've been drinking. And I might need to apologize for the ambulance chaser reference.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50092 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:11 pm to
The state constitution is an abortion of a document.

But that isn’t the problem with our town and parish governments.

The problem is that we elect fricktards who couldn’t balance a checkbook if their lives depended on it.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:11 pm to
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we will never have a moment so prescient or focused regarding our deeply flawed constitution

we need a complete overhaul, from how we handle taxation to our political units. there is no reason we need 60+ parishes with all the wasted, overlapping public spending/responsibilities/oversight. we need fewer political units: period.

it's time that we face the fact that our small towns and villages are money pits propped up by what essentially amounts to organized crime


It is time for an overhaul of the state constitution but this group of politicians would completely rewrite it to better themselves.

Louisiana is in a terrible situation just no real leaders and nobody that’s willing to do anything you’re actually calling for.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:11 pm to
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Just outlaw any municipal law enforcement under 50k population, it should be the Sheriff handling that.




especially if we reduce the number of parishes to 20 or so
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47478 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:11 pm to
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there is no reason we need 60+ parishes with all the wasted, overlapping public spending/responsibilities/oversight. we need fewer political units: period.
that would be a progressive’s wet dream, to expand the areas of parishes like Orleans, and take in white flight areas who thought they were escaping the city
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Support that. Especially after these parish presidents and mayors are showing their Napoleon complexes.


Sounds awfully familiar, Georgia has 159 counties aka 159 kingdoms. I live in a county with 19,000 people. There are 3 county seats of counties with less than 12,000 people less than 25 miles from our county seat. Where’s the sense in that?
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