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re: Louisiana is held hostage by the plaintiffs attorneys

Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:21 am to
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In the House, 19 of the 105 state representatives are attorneys.

In the Senate, 18 of the 39 state senators are attorneys.


How does that compare to other white collar professions? Engineers, docs, etc.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42130 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:23 am to
but but but.....they pay NIL money so LSU can have elite athletes......
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:27 am to
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How does that compare to other white collar professions? Engineers, docs, etc.


There are very few doctors and engineers in the Louisiana legislature (you might be able to count them on one hand for each profession).

The Louisiana legislature is a mixture of folks from different career backgrounds, and you'd be surprised the number of people who serve in the legislature who don't have an education beyond a bachelor's degree.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:30 am to
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There are very few doctors and engineers in the Louisiana legislature (you might be able to count them on one hand for each profession).

The Louisiana legislature is a mixture of folks from different career backgrounds, and you'd be surprised the number of people who serve in the legislature who don't have an education beyond a bachelor's degree.


So lawyers are probably very over-represented even if they don't make up most of either house.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4072 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:31 am to
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The homeowners insurer "We are Farmers! Fu-fu-fu-fu...frick you!" came back with $5800 on the house and $8800 on the autos (X2) for a total of $23,400 where last year it was $9100 in total.


You were quoted $17,600 for auto insurance?
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:35 am to
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So lawyers are probably very over-represented even if they don't make up most of either house.


I wouldn't say very overrepresented. I would say that they are slightly overrepresented. Nationwide, lawyers are approximately 14% of all state legislators.

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19/105 members of the Louisiana House + 18/39 members of the Louisiana Senate is 37/144 members of the state legislature, or roughly 25% of the Louisiana legislature.

So, the number of lawyers that we have in our legislature is higher than the national average.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 11:38 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:39 am to
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So, the number of lawyers that we have in our legislature is higher than the national average.


How's that working out for Louisiana?
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:47 am to
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How's that working out for Louisiana?


I wouldn't blame lawyers for the state of economic affairs in Louisiana. Almost every tort reform bill that has been filed in the Louisiana legislature has passed with overwhelming majorities. The bill that was just vetoed by Landry was passed overwhelmingly by the legislature.

Back in 2020, the tort reform bill passed by the prior legislature (again, controlled by Republicans) was signed by John Bel Edwards. That didn't bring auto insurance premiums down. It did the exact opposite.

I'd blame horrible drivers and horrible road conditions, more than anything else.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14798 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:56 am to
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everyone, all over the country, tries to have their civil cases forum shopped and removed to Louisiana because it is so "friendly" to plaintiffs and juries award exorbitant money damages
Then surely it will be easy to identify which LA laws are so friendly to the plaintiff and are outliers that don't exist in most other states?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:15 pm to
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I wouldn't blame lawyers for the state of economic affairs in Louisiana


I wouldn’t either but the legislature certainly owns a lot of that responsibility.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78347 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Everyone hates on plaintiffs attorneys until you have a huge company refusing to pay you what you're owed
Do what states with cheaper insurance do? Why is Mississippi considerably cheaper than LA?

Plus people generally believe they should be entitled to recover more than they should.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27694 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Which (in regards to oil and gas) is a result of the trial lawyers.


Yep, and Landry Administration folks worked this last session to tank a bill by Alan Seabaugh that would have helped some of that.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16098 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:29 pm to
They are and they manipulated the republicans by cutting a deal with Landry

Landry thinks voters are too stupid to realize what’s going on. The fact that he shot down tort reform makes clear that Landry is catering to plaintiff attorneys.

Heck, the defense attorneys don’t want tort reform either. What’s good for the plaintiff attorneys is good for defense attorneys
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78347 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Back in 2020, the tort reform bill passed
Watered down.
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Why is Mississippi considerably cheaper than LA?


Well, let's first start by acknowledging that Mississippi has approximately 2.94 million people living there, while Louisiana has about 4.59 million people living here. That's a difference of 1.65 million people. Fewer people living there will likely yield fewer people driving on Mississippi roads, which will likely yield fewer accidents.

Mississippi has about half the percentage of poor arterial pavement miles as Louisiana but is roughly equivalent to Alabama.

LINK

So, fewer drivers on the road with 1/2 the percentage of poor arterial pavement miles as Louisiana is going to yield lower insurance rates in Mississippi.

Something's telling me that if we created tolls in or near the major cities in Louisiana (to try to provide more maintenance funding for our roads) and if fewer drivers in this state were involved in fewer accidents, we'd likely have lower rates.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14798 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Watered down.
But it should've helped some, right? Why did rates still go way up?

Same thing as this year...Landry vetoed the one bill that is getting most of the attention, but has still signed dozens of other tort reforms measures into law. Don't hold your breath to see if rates will go down some, though.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1634 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Nah, it is the big, bad insurance companies. The lawyers are the knights in shining armor. When you have such a poor population, every little $2000 to $4000 fender bender results in a $30,000 payout to the so called injured. Dems a lot a money for a welfare state.
The insurance companies don't help things. My SIL got hit and has a fairly new truck. No injuries and minor damage. Probably $2500 - $3000. Insurance wouldn't pay. He finally had to get an attorney & got a payout of $30K. They could have just fixed his truck.

Same thing happened to my wife. She got hit from behind and it ended up totally the car. But their comp's were not serious. Ended up costing us $3000+their offer. Next time she got hit we got an attorney.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29292 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Well, let's first start by acknowledging that Mississippi has approximately 2.94 million people living there, while Louisiana has about 4.59 million people living here. That's a difference of 1.65 million people. Fewer people living there will likely yield fewer people driving on Mississippi roads, which will likely yield fewer accidents.


You don’t know shite about how insurance works. The larger the risk pool, the more spread out the risk is.


Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29292 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:41 pm to
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Don't hold your breath to see if rates will go down some, though.


Please explain to the class then why insurance companies don’t want to write/and or charge giant premiums here then. Do they not like us? Everyone blaming the insurance companies never says why we get the shite end of the stick.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61403 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:51 pm to
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No injuries and minor damage. Probably $2500 - $3000. Insurance wouldn't pay. He finally had to get an attorney & got a payout of $30K.


How does this work? Did he end up asking for some kind of pain and suffering or medical money?
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