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re: Loomer sides with Newsom over DeSantis

Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111719 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:03 pm to
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It's a pretty common tactic of the left to reject the content of an opinion and try and label it as dishonest.


You didn’t present it as opinion. You presented it as fact. Because you’re a weak liar.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51554 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:03 pm to
She's not totally wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262421 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:04 pm to
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The other is polling in single digits of the primary.


Why arent y'all fighting Biden?

Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5212 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:05 pm to
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To this day I just don't understand what DeSantis was thinking.


He wants to win.

quote:

It was all set up for him for 2028


Bullshite. Trump will 100% run again in 2028 after he loses to Biden in 2024. Will 2028 still be Trump's turn?

quote:

Let Trump win in 2024


Trump can't win a General Election going forward. He also promised he would go away and thus not run again if he didn't get re-elected in 2020.



quote:

DeSantis killed a promising political career simply


So let me get this straight. DeSantis' political career is over despite the fact that he's the most conservative Governor in the country and has never lost a General Election.

Meanwhile...Trump, who got destroyed in 2020 and sabotaged the 2 Republican Senators in Georgia ahead of the runoff and helped hand the Dems the Senate, does not only have a political career but he gets unlimited turns? His political career should've ended the second he got bent over by oatmeal brain.

quote:

he couldn't wait until 2028.


No one is entitled to a "turn." Also, if Trump somehow did win in 2024, his VP would be the favorite in 2028. The country can't endure 4 more years of Biden, which is why DeSantis is running.

Trump will 100% run again in 2028. Are you committed to telling him to go frick himself if he does?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25680 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:08 pm to
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That's how retarded MAGA is


Sad that you need this explained to you.

Loomer, nutcase that she is, accurately points out WHY Newsom will garner more appeal to the general public.

You're pretending to claim that's why SHE thinks he's a better candidate. In fact, she's pointing out to the DeSantis crowd Ron's own flaws, and where the American Psycho Newsom will get the upper hand.


How does this not register with you? Seriously. Just like Trump isn't PRAISING Putin or Kim Jong Un, he's playing into their ego and explaining why they're credible opponents rather than just dunking on him 24/7.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56870 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:09 pm to
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You didn’t present it as opinion. You presented it as fact. Because you’re a weak liar.



What part of the following didn't you recognize as an opinion:

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The only possible downvotes of this are Desantis believers who deny reality and pretend Desantis supporters who actually support the true objective of keeping Trump out of the White House.

We have both on this board. The latter group is larger than the former.


I suspect you know it to be true. I suspect you are part of that latter group I reference.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5212 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:10 pm to
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Sad that you need this explained to you.



Loomer is rooting for Newsom in this debate. Loomer has gone on the record saying that she'd help whoever the Democrat is if DeSantis were to ever be the nominee. Loomer encouraged GOP voters in Virginia to boycott their elections a few weeks ago. The same shite that Trump's pals Lin Wood and Sidney Powell pulled in GA ahead of the 2021 runoffs.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111719 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:10 pm to
I suspect you’re fat.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20055 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Trump supporters aren't conservative. They're liberals and moderates.


Now if only we could convince the liberals and moderates of this, Trump May have a shot in the general election.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:11 pm to
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quote:
If you honestly think DeSantis is at 8% and the polls are accurate I feel sorry for you. Not saying he is winning but he is sure as hell doing better than that and the polls are increasingly cooked.



It does not matter. Desantis’ campaign has been to try and convince 70M people that they were wrong before they ever knew who he was. It was a losing strategy from the very beginning


If the polls are accurate you need to believe that in spite of DeSantis now has more people signed up to Caucus for him in Iowa than the poll number says support him in total. That was before Vander Plaats endorsed. DeSantis currently has over 3x the amount of people signed up to Caucus for him than Cruz had in '16 (over 30k compared to 10k) when he won with 28%.

Some of us actually understand politics and how this stuff works. You can get polls to say anything you want, you just have to cook up the sample you want.

Don't worry though, in 50 days we will find out. If Trump wins by 30 like all of you think he will then he will win the nomination. If he loses Iowa though then we will know it was all bullshite and all of the inevitability about him is gone.

We will see.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56870 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Sad that you need this explained to you.

Loomer, nutcase that she is, accurately points out WHY Newsom will garner more appeal to the general public.

You're pretending to claim that's why SHE thinks he's a better candidate. In fact, she's pointing out to the DeSantis crowd Ron's own flaws, and where the American Psycho Newsom will get the upper hand.


How does this not register with you? Seriously. Just like Trump isn't PRAISING Putin or Kim Jong Un, he's playing into their ego and explaining why they're credible opponents rather than just dunking on him 24/7.



Take a step back and consider that the person you are trying to isn't simply not aware...but is just trying to put forth a justifiable explanation for the debate because they NEED it to accomplish their end.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111719 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Now if only we could convince the liberals and moderates of this, Trump May have a shot in the general election.


How do you think Trump won the rust belt in 2020?

Is this brand new information to you?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25680 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Loomer is rooting for Newsom in this debate. Loomer has gone on the record saying that she'd help whoever the Democrat is if DeSantis were to ever be the nominee. Loomer encouraged GOP voters in Virginia to boycott their elections a few weeks ago. The same shite that Trump's pals Lin Wood and Sidney Powell pulled in GA ahead of the 2021 runoffs.


Wrong. She's dunking on DeSantis, because in her mind, she sees him as a major Trump rival. Never mind the poll numbers. She's so pro Trump, she's got blinders on. The woman doesn't know what she's doing. (paraphrasing Jesus) She refuses to acknowledge the larger picture. She's a bit of a menace, in my opinion.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8058 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:22 pm to
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This is long past about winning a primary anymore, it’s about vindictively seeking to obliterate a guy’s political future. DeSantis REALLY pizzed some people off by daring to run against Trump. “Sure, Gavin is a communist…”. Ya think Laura? But you’ll be rooting like hell for him.


How is this any different than Ronbots sincerely hoping the GOP nominee loses the general so they can say, “We told you Trump would lose.”?

Not only that, but they actively shite on Trump 24/7, doing their best to spread anti-GOP rhetoric in hopes it hurts his chance at winning the general.

They do all they can to prevent Trump from winning…they don’t want the egg on their face so they work hard to do their part to hurt the GOP nominee.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56870 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

I suspect you’re fat.





This is what children do when they are outsmarted.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:26 pm to
This isn’t a denial. You live in some bizarre alternate reality where you’re not fat and Trump is a conservative.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20055 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

He wants to win.


You just called MAGA retarded on the previous page. There is no way that Desantis “wins” a debate against someone that is not even his political opponent.

quote:

Bullshite. Trump will 100% run again in 2028 after he loses to Biden in 2024. Will 2028 still be Trump's turn?


Again, I’ll remind you that you are using the word retarded as an insult. Yet here you are completely ignoring the circumstances that would make 2028 different for Ron as a candidate (that the post quoted detailed), regardless of what Trump does. And, you are assuming Biden will be the candidate, and not questioning why your preferred candidate is giving a stage to a popular democrat.

quote:

No one is entitled to a "turn."


Which includes Desantis. Quit throwing a fit about it.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:28 pm to
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There is no way that Desantis “wins” a debate against someone that is not even his political opponent.


Retarded seems appropriate when these are the kinds of comments you listless vessels make. As I have said before, you people don’t even know who the enemy is.
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
407 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:32 pm to
Your an idiot. She did not side with Newsome…stop the gaslighting bs. btw, I’m not a fan of hers
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20055 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Some of us actually understand politics and how this stuff works. You can get polls to say anything you want, you just have to cook up the sample you want.


I understand basically human psychology and how anchors work. Making the Trump base defensive is not a good way to get them to change their mind.

I also understand polling to a degree. I don’t put any stock into one individual poll, but I think it’s pretty clear that Trump is very popular and was always going to be difficult to compete with in this election cycle.
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