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re: LIVE Candace Owens vs Andrew Wilson Debate: Over whether Israel Killed Charlie Kirk
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:47 am to Boom33
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:47 am to Boom33
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A security guard knows all the vehicles on a campus? Really? I find that hard to believe.
Knowing all cars or at least being able to notice a strange car is probably part of his job description.
My walking track is full of cars every day- it’s hard to know which ones are missing, but easy to spot the one that’s “new” to me.
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:49 am to Boom33
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A security guard knows all the vehicles on a campus? Really?
Could be that student's that drive on campus have some sort of identification (sticker) for their vehicle and his didn't?
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:49 am to SallysHuman
There is literally no piece of evidence that she doesn’t think is some big conspiracy. None.
Shoes, shirts, video, text messages, charging documents, court proceedings, parents recognizing their son and the gun…
Shoes, shirts, video, text messages, charging documents, court proceedings, parents recognizing their son and the gun…
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:51 am to SallysHuman
Game , set , match. Andrew is now opening up the destruction.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:55 am to Boom33
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A security guard knows all the vehicles on a campus? Really?
That college is 100% commuter, so there are indeed tens of thousands of vehicles.
But... if where Tyler parked is normally only for staff, students with specific parking passes, vendors, etc. and that guard usually works just that area, it's very plausible if those caveats are in place. This becomes especially true if part of his job is to notice vehicles parked specifically in that area.
Now let's look at the car:
I'm not sure how popular Challengers are in Utah, but they do tend to stand out.
The cumulative effect of those aspects lend possibility to the guard noticing it (especially considering he wrote down the license plate number).
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:56 am to SallysHuman
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There is literally no piece of evidence that she doesn’t think is some big conspiracy. None.
That's a huge conspiracy the Jews put together to have that many people involved not to have at least one person break yet. Or it's all an elaborate hoax.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:58 am to Lg
Lance Twiggs… she says his parents would more suspect him of it. 
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:59 am to SallysHuman
Great explanation. From the preliminary trial those were my words. In testimony admitted into evidence....
I think the watchman security guy was at the automated stick gate entering the parking garage. The statement was something like his gut told him sus and he noted the make and license plate of TRs vehicle.
He may have even spoke to him. My overall point is it was on video in and out of the parking garage (he may have been doing intel) and TR got out of his vehicle in the parking garage in video.
How is this hearsay?
Candace or someone said they heard TR was eating somewhere off campus. So the video and security guy is lying?
I think the watchman security guy was at the automated stick gate entering the parking garage. The statement was something like his gut told him sus and he noted the make and license plate of TRs vehicle.
He may have even spoke to him. My overall point is it was on video in and out of the parking garage (he may have been doing intel) and TR got out of his vehicle in the parking garage in video.
How is this hearsay?
Candace or someone said they heard TR was eating somewhere off campus. So the video and security guy is lying?
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:00 pm to cajunangelle
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Candace or someone said they heard TR was eating somewhere off campus. So the video and security guy is lying?
Candy has ALL the sauces!
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:00 pm to SallysHuman
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Lance Twiggs… she says his parents would more suspect him of it.
Of course.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:00 pm to Beef Supreme
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He's a fricking loser.
No, like I said, I've never seen him lose a debate. I haven't seen all his debates or anything, but he seems to be a winner from what I can tell.
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If your profession is arguing then you dont contribute much to society.
Meh, I'd say he contributes more than someone whose profession is running fast while holding a ball or shooting it into a goal. I'd say he contributes more than a profession like, say, being a real estate agent, which is nothing more than a large PAC who lobbies for government to mandate mostly unnecessary requirements/regulations for buying and selling property that they then step in to fulfill. Or someone who designs or sells video games for a living, or owns a convenience store or a bowling alley or a McDonald's franchise or a souvenir shop in a tourist destination, for example.
I would say publicly debating current important political and spiritual topics in front of hundreds of thousands of people is more beneficial to society than any of those things. Kind of by a lot.
And I don't hate somebody just for owning a bowling alley or selling video games, so...
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Clout chasing online by being aggressive in debates for clicks.
Unfortunately our populist society responds to vitriol. I'm not a fan of it either. If I were doing it I would do it differently. And I probably wouldn't be noticed.
I get it. It's a bottom feeder, ambulance chaser, Saul Goodman approach.
But sans a major company staking your act with millions of dollars to promote it, it's a strategy that gets you noticed. Just like The Who smashing their equipment back in the 60s. That was 100% wasteful, childish, crass, whatever you want to call it. And it worked.
Because appealing to the masses is an exercise in finding the lowest common denominator.
And that denominator is really low for populists.
It's the same classless, "Look, that guy will say anything to anybody" character trait that virtually condensed a cult around Donald Trump.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:03 pm to cajunangelle
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No, like I said, I've never seen him lose a debate. I haven't seen all his debates or anything, but he seems to be a winner from what I can tell.
Yea, she's really out of her league on this one.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:03 pm to cajunangelle
It is crazy that CK's items he had on him when he was assassinated was turned over to EK instead of held in evidence.
I would like to know where CK's freedom shirt is. I have a feeling thats not in evidence either.
I would like to know where CK's freedom shirt is. I have a feeling thats not in evidence either.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:04 pm to Zephyrius
After autopsy personnel affects aren’t evidence. They knew what killed him.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:05 pm to Zephyrius
Now she is bringing up Lance. Except there are witnesses and data that put him 200 miles away at his apartment when it happened.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:06 pm to wackatimesthree
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Self described "bloodsport debater."
Orthodox Christian, debates pretty much anybody he can find who will debate him. He actually understands logic and uses logical argumentation, he doesn't just rely on shouting someone down (although he will use that tactic too if his opponent uses it).
He's usually debating against feminism and degeneracy in society (which is why he debates so many OF women.) He's also a self described Christian nationalist, and Christian nationalism is a topic that he frequently debates as well, arguing that Christian ethics should dominate American society.
Finally, he's a self described populist. For those of you with Joo Derangement Syndrome who may be suspicious because of the topic of this debate, he doesn't support the Iran war, he doesn't believe that the US has any obligation to support Israel, and he's generally a typical populist isolationist.
Despite arguing from the standpoint of orthodox Christianity, Christian Nationalism, and against degeneracy, etc., he curses like a sailor, smokes and drinks beer while debating, and will match his opponent's tone. Meaning that if they name call, so will he. If they try to talk over him, he'll talk over them, etc.
I don't agree with him on everything, but I like to watch him because he does argue everything from a structured logical standpoint and his take on feminism is spot on. He's the one who introduced me to the idea of Force Doctrine with regard to feminism.
One last thing. He was a blue collar worker (I think an electrician) until COVID shut his work down (he lives in Michigan). He couldn't work during the shutdowns, so he started arguing on the internet and figured out he was really good at it and that he could make a living doing it. So he transitioned slowly and gradually into this line of work and I think he is on the cusp of becoming as well known as the bigger online influencers out there. He's always very well prepared. In fact, I can't really say I've ever seen him really lose a debate.
All of the responses to "Who is Andrew Wilson" are excellent but I appreciate the excellent back story you provided.
It is impossible to agree w/ someone on every issue; but I have great admiration for him and he doesn't mince words or care about feelings.
I just hope the he doesn't die early from being a chain smoker.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:06 pm to DeBoar
Candace sounds like an idiot
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:07 pm to SDVTiger
She is one. The comments on YT by wack a doos going strong supporting her. I wanna know who paid Candace
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:09 pm to DeBoar
How many people are watching the livestream?
We are the ones who continue to create opportunities for these grifters to grift.
We are the ones who continue to create opportunities for these grifters to grift.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 12:09 pm to DeBoar
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I wanna know who paid Candace
Her taking 300k for this debate proves she’ll take money for talking… wonder what amount gets her to espouse the payer’s POV.
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