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re: Listen to what Independents like me are saying, and you'll understand American politics

Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Nice straw man. Stay on topic, Tesla.



Pretty sure Jake88 and NorthAlabama are in the process of making this argument, which suggests that right-wing violence against ANTIFA is justified because it is in self defense.

I reject this argument because it is based on an objectively false claim that can be independently verified across multiple incidents, including Charlottesville.

Now -- frick off if you have nothing to contribute.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:55 pm to
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You obviously believe that self defense is thuggish.


WINNER WINNER. You believe these groups act in self defense. This is incorrect.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:56 pm to
So there's nothing you're willing to fight for. Sad.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76528 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:56 pm to
If a antifa march turns violent and police refuse to engage what is the best course of action?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80045 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Pretty sure Jake88 ... in the process of making this argument, which suggests that right-wing violence against ANTIFA is justified because it is in self defense.
I'm beginning to think you have cognitive limitations.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:57 pm to
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. You believe these groups act in self defense.
No one forces antifa to show up at their events.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:58 pm to
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So there's nothing you're willing to fight for. Sad.



No, what's sad is your hypocritical celebration of violent street thugs.

I never answered your question, btw, nor will I because it is irrelevant to the conversation (as I have demonstrated).

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:58 pm to
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White people are now seen as white supremacists by default because they don't speak up more on race


Honestly man, you are very low IQ person. GO eat some fricking crayons. Nearly every counterprotester at Charlottesville was white. For the record they were just a fringe and psychotic as the ones the protesting against.

Also, I have a pocket full of fricks to give away but none of them are going to racial issues because I'm not a child.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:59 pm to
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WINNER WINNER. You believe these groups act in self defense. This is incorrect.



Which group followed the proper procedures to register and get permits for their demonstration?

Which group showed up without any of this?

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:59 pm to
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I never answered your question, btw, nor will I because it is irrelevant to the conversation (as I have demonstrated).

You've demonstrated a few things but they likely aren't what you think.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:59 pm to
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White people are now seen as white supremacists by default because they don't speak up more on race.


That's mighty....racist.

Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:00 pm to
I'd rather you frick off, since you refuse to respond directly to any questions or rebuttals to your inane drivel. We get it, anything the "right" does is wrong because you feel a certain way. Check your emotional privilege and respond like a man.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:00 pm to
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So you split the difference between each side? That’s just cowardice.


Yeah. One of the biggest misconceptions today is that objective truth lies in the middle of political aisle. That cant really be true considering one side of the aisle is constantly shifting further and further left.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:01 pm to
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I'm beginning to think you have cognitive limitations.



Don't hate me for pointing out your hypocrisy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:02 pm to
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White people are now seen as white supremacists by default because they don't speak up more on race.
From one centrist, to another: White liberal politicians instigated Charlottesville. They anticipated and set up the conflict. They benefited from the result. The fact you side with them speaks volumes.
Posted by mountaintop
Member since Oct 2017
740 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:03 pm to
Trump's election in 2016 showed that Americans were fed up with slow change that Barack Obama promised in 2008, Hillary Clinton is a washed up politician who could not win the Democratic primaries earlier in spring 2016 and that Trump did bring in racial anxiety with immigration to win.

Trump and Clinton ran a polarizing campaign, but Trump won at the end.

However, he needs to be more confrontational with Russia and let the nation heal.

As for the Democratic Party, they are too left-wing and they believe in "destroying the white man" which will destroy them in the future.

The Democratic Party has no message other than "Trump, Russia, white men must be destroyed, etc.

They need a message.

The Republican Party needs to stand up to Trump when he says something stupid.

Trump needs to stay out of the NFL, it has already hardened American voters.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:04 pm to
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by me


Starting a conversation I see
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:04 pm to
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Don't hate me for pointing out your hypocrisy.
You're equating a group that lawfully applies to assemble with a group that exists for no reason but to attack those lawful assemblies.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:05 pm to
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I'd rather you frick off, since you refuse to respond directly to any questions or rebuttals to your inane drivel. We get it, anything the "right" does is wrong because you feel a certain way. Check your emotional privilege and respond like a man.



I refuse to response directly to irrelevant questions or vitriolic ad-hom attacks, yes. Meanwhile, several posters in this thread -- yourself included -- openly celebrate the violent actions of literal criminal street thugs.

That is the hypocrisy of the new right, encapsulated. Thanks for serving as a shining example of that.
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