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re: Listen to what Independents like me are saying, and you'll understand American politics

Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80045 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:44 pm to
Do you live under a rock? Keith Ellison supports ANTIFA LINK
Obama meets with BLM.LINK
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80045 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:45 pm to
It was a few posts ago in this thread. Laziness appears to suit your purposes though.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:45 pm to
Depends. How big is your arse and how much of it do you plan to show to us today with your big boy critical thinking skills?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:47 pm to
And Trump thinks there are lots of "good people" among the right-wing street thugs.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Independent. 

I don't agree with conservatives on everything. 
I don't agree with liberals on everything. 

I call them out


Just like me.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Justifying something (which is the same as rationalizing it, genius)


Justification implies reasons. Rationalization implies excuses. There is a connotative difference, genius.
Posted by mountaintop
Member since Oct 2017
740 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:49 pm to
An Independent is someone who can think for themselves and has political and social ideas that can be different than conservatism and liberalism.
Posted by mountaintop
Member since Oct 2017
740 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:50 pm to
He is a right-wing populist.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:50 pm to
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Though there are times to praise violence, don’t be naive. If you happened along and some guy with a big knife was trying to kill someone and you stopped them, guess what? The act of you shootomg then would be commended.

I said stopped them because only violence or the threat of violence deters people in such a situation.


Let me get this straight: You guys truly believe that right-wing groups have ALWAYS acted in self defense, and that this justifies their violence?

The facts from Charlottesville tell a very different story. This narrative is objectively wrong.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:50 pm to
Again, when do you think it's appropriate to respond with violence.
Posted by humanlement
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
536 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:50 pm to
You sir are a cuck and should move further left. No room for you here.

1. I believe that white European immigrants (white people) and the white race built this country with their bare hands carved out of the wilderness and did so with the ideals of Judaeo Christian principals as the foundation of their beliefs and rules of law.
2. I believe that the alt left and the Democratic Party are doing everything they can to change the demographics of this country with open boarders and open immigration so that they can change the demographic and this countries beliefs away from the judaeo Christian faith and beliefs (This is a worth fighting and dying for problem, and will be defended) remember where you heard it.
3. I believe that many thousands of years of evolution took place on this planet, with tribal fighting, race and regional wars against each other, thousands of pitched battles that determined the position of the races o n this planet today. I don’t think white people should have to deny their culture or be ashamed that we basically won the over all battle and control the civilized world as we know it today. If can’t see that and don’t believe that you’re an idiot.
4. I believe that blacks and other minoities have experienced racism here in the US and around the world. Same as others in other countries and places have experienced the same. I believe there is no making up for that, only what we have done over the last 50 years and that basically it is up to the black people to take advatange of the numerous breaks provided to them in this country today. And I am not advocating that we change that, because I do believe they need a leg up and help within this system to compete and prosper.
5. I believe that the current path we are on with all white people are evil, only whites are racist, white people must die, white culture is supremacy etc. is going to bring in a civil war that any non whites seriously will regret. And I am not hoping that happens I simply believe that it will, and it will be horrible for all Americans
6. I believe the MSM is our enemy, that they are playing with and blocking for a deep state supported political cabal here in this country that must be eliminated at any cost if our country and freedoms are to survive. I could go on but no need
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 6:57 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Again, when do you think it's appropriate to respond with violence.



Just make the argument you want to make and stop trying to bait me.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76528 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:52 pm to
You used the term moderate quite often.
Define moderate political philosophy.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:52 pm to
Nice straw man. Stay on topic, Tesla.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80045 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:53 pm to
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And Trump thinks there are lots of "good people" among the right-wing street thugs.
And if he does, he would be wrong about that. But, He never invited them to the White House like obama invited the BLM terrorists. He never posted a pic with their handbook like Ellison did with the terrorist ANTIFA's.

You are willfully blind that the Left started all of this violence, got adopted by the democrats and are now met with a violent response, at times, by fringe, looney rightists. Those retards with their confederate flags and nazi bullshite are a goddamned embarrassment and are not embraced by leaders on the right side like the violent leftist radicals are by dem politicians.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:53 pm to
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He is a right-wing populist.
He was elected, right?

What does that fact say to a self-absorbed centrist?

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:54 pm to
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his thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Keep it coming, baws.
Nah, her and the rest of the fringe left are just as bad as the fringe right. The real problem we have in this country isn't the existence of certain fringe groups, its the left's inability or unwillingness to denounce or even define what constitutes fringe on the left.


That is far more dangerous than any fringe group could ever be.
Posted by mountaintop
Member since Oct 2017
740 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:54 pm to
Charlottesville is a change to American society because it is brought up all the time.

White people are now seen as white supremacists by default because they don't speak up more on race.

LINK
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Just make the argument you want to make and stop trying to bait me.

I'm honestly curious. You obviously believe that self defense is thuggish. You obviously believe that violence in support of our constitutional rights is thuggish. Is their anything you're willing to fight for?
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