re: Listen to what Independents like me are saying, and you'll understand American politics

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Trump did not win the 2016 Popular Vote.

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What do people keep pointing this out it is irrelevant, it has no bearing on Trump being president, or anything else, our system requires a candidate to win states not individual voters.

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mountaintop

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Listen to what Independents like me are saying

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We don't care. Shut up. Nobody told you that you could leave the kids table.

you sound like a race baiting turd. Your "moderate" slant is nothing but bullshite liberalism that you are scared to admit.

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I am the average American. 

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How does being an independent make you the "average American"?

Why do I always get this vibe from people who claim to be "independent"? A vibe that they care more about what they aren't, than what they are...that always ends up in some form of public self felacio.

Take this post for example.

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Listen to what Independents like me are saying, and you'll understand American politics
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Another internet moderate who voted for Hillary, Obama, Kerry and Gore.

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exactly my first thought.

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I believe that it is the responsibility of white people to understand that black people live different lives than white people.

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Sounds a lot like racism. Certainly the soft kind.

I agree 100% with OP, and am a registered independent who is radically moderate - conservative on economicand security issues, and liberal on social issues. Roughly 11% in this board upvoted this post and 89% downvotes which puts this board in the radical ALT Right category. The radical left and radical right are the biggest problem with America and is tearing us apart. The only way to unify America is for radical moderates / centrists to gain power and legislate balanced government instead of the Totalitarian - Facist playbook modeled after Stalin, Hitler, Putin, Erdogan, and other dictators that Trump is using that has so many of you captivated. Democracy works from the middle out, not from the radical fringes either left or right. One day moderation will rule again, and that will make America great.

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The only way to unify America is for radical moderates / centrists to gain power and legislate balanced government

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Another "I'm gonna bitch about the way things are but not to the point to do anything about it" post. That's exactly why we have what you opine about. No one has the balls to actually do anything about it.

BTW, you need to add Lyndon Johnson to your list if you want to appear credible with your statement.

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you are not preaching to the most intelligent population on this board dude.

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Keep up the good vibs brother

Democracy is built on consensus and inclusion, and the constitution is designed to protect against extremism. Extremism is precisely what most of you right wingers are advocating and it is dangerous.

I don’t like Bernie Sanders any more or less than Trump. From my view, they are two of same - advocates of radical ideology instead of real statesmen/womenship that can gain consensus and unite the company. Congress is equally radicalized. What if Bernie was president and led by executive order like Trump is doing and ordered socialism across our entire government? Would be the same thing of what Trump is doing with extreme right executive orders.

The inability of the executive branch and the legislative branch to actually be the vehicle to pass laws whether it was Obama’s executive orders, or now Trump has led us to Totalitarian - Executive order Federal Government.

This is a massive problem for a democratic America. Democracy works from the Middle - Out like our founding fathers intended.