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re: List of 2020 Election Fraud Cases 81 Cases Total, 30 Still Active.. 0 heard evidence
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:27 pm to No Colors
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:27 pm to No Colors
quote:what's mysterious is that before biden was inaugurated, the judges were very clear they didn't want the courts anywhere near a case that could potentially overturn the election. now however, they appear willing to dip their toes into the water
Do you know how hard it is to get 100 independent people to agree to anything?
quote:the photos and videos are out there. the eyewitness testimony is out there. the expert analysis is out there. it's stupid to say it isn't there.
It's simply way more likely that the evidence just isn't there.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:38 pm to WDE24
quote:what a joke
barred by laches
quote:exactly. nothing about the evidence. dismissed on standing. what a joke
the Court nonetheless finds Wood would not be entitled to the relief he seeks
quote:but the left keeps telling me over and over that rudy and co never presented evidence of fraud. the left lied to me? GET RIGHT OUT OF TOWN
the declarations and testimony submitted in support of his motion speculate as to wide-spread impropriety
quote:what the frick is this gobbledygook? INVESTIGATE. IT'S THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. it's important. you don't need to interject your idiotic adjectives into the assessment.
the actual harm alleged by Wood concerns merely a "garden variety" election dispute
quote:why would anyone stop investigation of that allegation? that is a completely, totally reasonable request
he alleges that select non-party, partisan monitors were not permitted to observe the Audit in an ideal manner
quote:not that any should be needed
Wood presents no authority
quote:wow. just wow. the court giving an open license to untrustworthy elections. this is where america is at now
providing for a right to unrestrained observation or monitoring of vote counting, recounting, or auditing
quote:no. totally wrong. all the court has to do is ensure fair, independent, impartial, transparent investigation. that's it. nothing more. they are totally TOTALLY wrong on that count. the courts had nothing to lose and the country had everything to gain by allowing the allegations to make it to trial
"If every state election irregularity were considered a federal constitutional deprivation, federal courts would adjudicate every state election dispute."
quote:there we go. that's it right there. nothing about the evidence. just the merit of the case. it is fallacious to weigh the merit of the case without weighing the merit of the outcome that did happen - election fraud putting an illegitimate administration in office.
Wood has not satisfied his burden of establishing a substantial likelihood of success on the merits
thanks for citing that. yet another example of how the courts got these matters completely wrong and america is now suffering because of it. the gaping holes in the election system were exposed by rudy and co and now no one trusts the election system. fraud has now been sanctioned. no one will trust electronic voting systems. no one will trust mail in ballots. no one will trust the corrupt election officials. it's all about who cheats the best now. thanks judges
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:41 pm to bfniii
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why would anyone stop investigation of that allegation? that is a completely, totally reasonable request
Yes, it is very reasonable. And the fact that they won't is in fact evidence of fraud.
Obstruction of justice, actually.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:41 pm to bfniii
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videos are out there.
you talking about the proven to be fake video Guiliani was pushing about the "suitcases" under the table. That he had to take a legit video that anyone can watch and see what was really happening and deliberately edit it in a way to try to make it look like something unethical was occurring says it all about the "evidence" of the steal he actually had.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:42 pm to cajunbama
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Zero evidence.
Of Democrat morals.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:45 pm to WDE24
quote:
while ruling no standing, also considered the evidence proffered by Wood and made a finding that he was not likely to succeed on the merits of his claim even if he had standing.
That is not what the judge wrote.
The judge wrote that even if Wood prevailed he was not entitled to the relief he sought.
I don’t know what the relief was, so can’t comment.
But that judge made zero declaration about the merits of Woods’ evidence.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:52 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:Yes it is.
That is not what the judge wrote.
quote:After an evidentiary hearing, he determined Wood was unlikely to succeed on the merits of his claim.
But that judge made zero declaration about the merits of Woods’ evidence.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:55 pm to Obtuse1
quote:and this is something that is on the pa legislature. mcenany told them they could take the power back and gave them a statute. they didn't. but then they objected to the state's certification. it was a total dumpster fire and i can only guess it was because of poor leadership. this is where america is now and biden is doing his best to piss off anyone and everyone while lining his pockets from home and abroad.
The legislatures in the states hold the power to direct the elections
quote:another misstep by the judges. this was a largely unprecedented situation and there still is confusion. the courts could have helped to ensure fair, impartial, transparent investigation
Cases where the legislature et al waited until after the election courts have not heard
quote:i think some of the changes were made in good faith and intended to help people. certain unscrupulous individuals decided to take advantage of that with unsolicited ballots, ballot harvesting, abuse of safer at home, etc. then the state legislature was confused as to what to do next. NOW, scotus is saying "welllllll, maybe we should revisit this issue."
I am pretty sure the courts in each of these procedural post-election cases used the rationale that the governors et al that changed the procedure did it openly and it offered the legislature the time to contest the change
quote:again, the measures were to help people and make voting easier. there wasn't an acute, urgent need to contest because the abuse hadn't started yet.
In not contesting prior to the election the legislature was, in essence, giving their tacit approval
quote:first, cast in a legal manner is disputed. the pa lower court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs. second, why can't they throw them out? again, they did not consider the alternative that actually became reality - an illegitimate administration. that is TOTALLY unacceptable and the judges should have done everything in their power to stop that by whatever means necessary. if that means a revote, then so be it. they set the bar impossibly high when it should have been the ground floor.
No court was going to throw out ballots that were ostensibly cast by the voter in a legal manner
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:06 pm to boxcar willie
quote:that video wasn't "fake" and hasn't been disproven regarding fraud. i'm curious to know where you got your information. let me guess - ga s.o.s. ministry of propaganda poster?
you talking about the proven to be fake video Guiliani was pushing about the "suitcases" under the table
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deliberately edit it in a way
how about the mi s.o.s. video?
how about the ga outreach center video?
how about the chinese shipping envelopes and the chinese printing company recording released by chinese dissidents?
how about the italian fiasco going on right now?
how about the boarded up windows in the counting center?
how about the nerd running a usb drive from machine to machine in az?
aside from those photos/videos, would you like to discuss the cyberdata analysis? statistical analysis? eyewitness testimonies?
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:06 pm to cajunbama
quote:flat earth
Zero evidence.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:08 pm to WDE24
quote:no it wasn't and that was just explained to you. go back and read your own citation
Yes it is
quote:but that wasn't ALL was it?
After an evidentiary hearing, he determined Wood was unlikely to succeed on the merits of his claim
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:13 pm to bfniii
quote:I’ve seen your insanity and inanity on here. There is little you could explain to me about these cases.
that was just explained to you. go back and read your own citation
The statement was made that no evidence had been heard or considered. That statement is false even as it relates to some of the cases that were tossed on standing.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:20 pm to GodnCountry
quote:This is not true, but it won't stop many folks from blindly believing it
In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:24 pm to WDE24
Why did the Maricopa County not comply with the subpoena?
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:45 pm to GodnCountry
It was a good plan. Apparently a hell of a lot of Judicial Branch frickery;
1). Many "Just Uses" wanted the election to go this way.
2). Many were threatened and intimidated into not hearing cases.
3). Many were bribed.
It is one or a combination. Our Judicial branch is now worthless.
1). Many "Just Uses" wanted the election to go this way.
2). Many were threatened and intimidated into not hearing cases.
3). Many were bribed.
It is one or a combination. Our Judicial branch is now worthless.
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:46 pm to No Colors
quote:
1) over 100 judges -- including the SCOTUS, and many judges appointed by Trump -- are all corrupt, and on the take. All were all to a person bribed by the Deep State to deny Trump the presidency.
2) Or Trump had no evidence of substantial fraud.
Which do you think is more likely?
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:28 pm to WDE24
quote:you say that yet you haven't refuted anything i've posted. let me know when you get a spine and want to talk facts
I’ve seen your insanity and inanity on here
quote:which is typical. people on the left can't be reasoned with. does that describe you?
There is little you could explain to me about these cases
quote:in and of itself and that is correct. it was always weighed against the merits of the case or standing or some procedural technicality. but you knew that didn't you
The statement was made that no evidence had been heard or considered
quote:incorrect and i invite you to show differently given my previous response
That statement is false even as it relates to some of the cases that were tossed on standing
Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:29 pm to shel311
quote:which case actually made it to trial. i'll wait while you google that
This is not true
Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:53 pm to GodnCountry
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