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re: Lindsey Graham on Gun Confiscation - "Every Right has its Limits"
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:13 pm to bmy
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:13 pm to bmy
quote:Yes it is. See number 1. and 2.
It exists for two reasons:
1) that each State may be secure in their freedoms
2) defense of home and hearth
It's not to protect you from the federal gov.
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:35 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:So what's your alternative solution?
They can have a hearing after they are booked. Happens all the time. After all, the best to fight for your rights is after they’ve been taken away. Everybody knows that.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:36 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
"shall not be infringed"
I mean that is pretty self explanatory.
I mean that is pretty self explanatory.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:40 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
"shall not be infringed"
Mentally ill? Felons? Convicted of domestic abuse? Under indictment for a charge carrying > 1 year sentence? Most people obviously agree with restrictions but bicker over where you draw the line.
Interpretation of 2A is where the right tries to ignore originalism
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Graham running in 2024 and winning (not gonna happen as things stand now) after Trump would be akin to Bush Sr's term which retroactively undermined Reagan's legacy in a massive way
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:44 pm to bmy
quote:usually comes after they have committed crimes that would make them felons.
Mentally ill?
quote:getting convicted of crimes makes citizens lose rights. Is that hard to comprehend?
Felons? Convicted of domestic abuse?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 5:59 pm to bmy
Yes it is!
Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:42 pm to ManBearTiger
quote:Graham is pimping himself for a run in 2020. And he's getting help from MSM, or he wouldn't be on TV damn near every day.
Graham running in 2024 and winning (not gonna happen as things stand now) after Trump would be akin to Bush Sr's term which retroactively undermined Reagan's legacy in a massive way
He's a never-Trumper who is playing a slippery game of pushing gun confiscation while pretending to be a Good Old Country Boy.
He's a RINO.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:46 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
He's dying to make another run at the Presidency. Gets his face on TV every chance he gets. A solid RINO - but blows smoke up the Deplorable's skirts as often as he can.
It would put Dems in a bind. How to oppose the first openly gay Presidential candidate?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:50 pm to texridder
quote:My solution? We stop worrying about faux-threats designed to scare people into surrendering their rights.
So what's your alternative solution?
And we spend out time worrying about things that actually have a damn decent chance of killing us - like heart disease, car accidents, and home slip-and-fall accidents. All far more likely to happen to us than some deranged killer randomly showing up at our house and killing you.
Of course none of those things empower the government so you can bet they’ll go largely ignored by people obsentsiblely (liars) out to “save lives”.
Given our rates of obesity, heart disease and diabetes—forks are way more dangerous to us than mentally-ill people wielding guns.
It’s not even close.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:23 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:And the 70,000 opioid deaths each and every year in the USA. Largely from drugs from Mexican cartels.
And we spend out time worrying about things that actually have a damn decent chance of killing us -
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:21 pm to bmy
quote:
Interpretation of 2A is where the right tries to ignore originalism
You are far too uneducated and outright ignorant to make a go at this concept. Go back to your rock child...
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:25 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
What's your alternative solution?
quote:I should have known better than to ask a scatter-brain like you an open-ended question like that.
OfAnd we spend out time worrying about things that actually have a damn decent chance of killing us - like heart disease, car accidents, and home slip-and-fall accidents. All far more likely to happen to us than some deranged killer randomly showing up at our house and killing you.
Of course none of those things empower the government so you can bet they’ll go largely ignored by people obsentsiblely (liars) out to “save lives”.
Given our rates of obesity, heart disease and diabetes—forks are way more dangerous to us than mentally-ill people wielding guns.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:46 pm to texridder
You never had a "solution" you little retard, nobody can give you an alternative to something that doesn't exist...
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:47 pm to tidalmouse
Yeah, they all have limits. For example,
Speech: defamation, content neutral restrictions of time, place, and manner
Speech: defamation, content neutral restrictions of time, place, and manner
Posted on 3/28/19 at 1:38 am to texridder
quote:Ah, the resort to personal insult. Telling. You gave literally no rebuttal-because you can't. Hard data backs me up solidly. You got the answer you asked for. If you aren't mature enough to handle it... I can't help you.
I should have known better than to ask a scatter-brain like you an open-ended question like that.
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 1:40 am
Posted on 3/28/19 at 4:54 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Doesn’t the nra support red flag laws ?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 5:03 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Red Flag Laws are open to subjective interpretation. Who is to say at some point just owning a gun will be deemed a violation of the red flag law.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 5:52 am to davyjones
quote:
Maybe a three psychiatrist panel, 2 of the 3 agreeing as to serious mental defect of the subject means temporarily taking guns with reassessments by same panel every 6 months for up to 2 years to monitor rehabilitation. If no rehabilitation within 2 years, seizure of guns goes final with the ability to petition a court within 90 days to review the panel's decision...an appeal essentially. The subject is afforded free legal counsel throughout. Sounds quite expensive but since when did that matter.
IDK....like I said I want a very pro-2nd amendment guy writing it making it idiot proof.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:13 am to Wtodd
quote:
like I said I want a very pro-2nd amendment guy writing it making it idiot proof.
The problem isn't idiots. The problem is evil people who deliberately attempt to circumvent the plain meaning of something to achieve a political end. 'shall not be infringed' is pretty idiot proof, yet we still have a problem with anti constitutional gun controllers.
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