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re: Lindsey Graham on Gun Confiscation - "Every Right has its Limits"
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:59 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:59 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
"Every Right has its Limits"
Except the number of times you can serve in Congress.
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:10 pm to Toroballistic
quote:The question is -- do you wait for a vicious dog to bite? That's not a perfect analogy, but in the end, does it make sense a wait for someone who is insane to exhibit violence?
The violently insane should be locked up. The non-violent insane have a right to self defense.
Which side do you err on?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:14 pm to texridder
quote:
The question is -- do you wait for a vicious dog to bite? That's not a perfect analogy, but in the end, does it make sense a wait for someone who is insane to exhibit violence?
How do you find out they're insane? Do we just abandon hippa?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:14 pm to texridder
quote:Nah. Just start throwing people in jail for what the government thinks they might do. What could go wrong? The could hire Ms.Cleo to fortune tell for them.
The question is -- do you wait for a vicious dog to bite? That's not a perfect analogy, but in the end, does it make sense a wait for someone who is insane to exhibit violence?
EDIT: may not work. Ms.Cleo has passed away.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:18 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Not relevant. These proposed laws allow for family members or law enforcement to start the process. Would be based on personal knowledge.
How do you find out they're insane? Do we just abandon hippa?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:21 pm to texridder
quote:Meh
Not relevant. These proposed laws allow for family members or law enforcement to start the process.
Are we talking after actual actions, or merely someone's "word"?
quote:Police aren't mental health pros and, no offense, but family members aren't always friends.
Would be based on personal knowledge.
You can take it to the bank that splitting couples will use this shite as a weapon
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:22 pm to tidalmouse
quote:
Does the Right to Free Speech have it's limits?
libel laws and defamation suits?
quote:
Does the Right to Religion have it's limits?
human sacrafice? animal sacrafice?
quote:
Does the Right to a Fair Trail have it's limits?
not sure about this one...
to be honest, i think the 2nd amendment has been regulated enough as it is.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:22 pm to texridder
quote:
How do you find out they're insane? Do we just abandon hippa?
Not relevant.
You clearly have no idea what HIPPA encompasses. quote:So... people with zero mental health expertise? Damn good thing family members never lie.
These proposed laws allow for family members or law enforcement to start the process. Would be based on personal knowledge.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:22 pm to ShortyRob
Same way involuntary committments are done every day.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:25 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Your guy, Justice Scalia, said that there could be reasonable regulation of gun ownership.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:25 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
8 years of sky screaming Obama and the Dems are going to take our guns .. a Republican President and Republican controlled senate banned bump stocks... 
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:28 pm to hawkeye007
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hawkeye007
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VOR
Ignore these pieces of subhuman scum
They haven't earned the right to be treated with any dignity whatsoever on this board after Mueller
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:34 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:They are not throwing anyone in jail. They are taking away guns with the gun owner having the right to a full hearing after the taking.
Just start throwing people in jail for what the government thinks they might do.
So if an insane person has guns, do you just sit back and wait to see what happens?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:35 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Which side do you want to err on?
Police aren't mental health pros and, no offense, but family members aren't always friends.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:36 pm to texridder
quote:
So if an insane person has guns, do you just sit back and wait to see what happens?
Not on my street with my kids. And hopefully not on anyone else's street with their kids either. Agree here, Tex.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:37 pm to texridder
quote:Well
Which side do you want to err on?
I would say that for every POTENTIAL crime you stop, you'll probably have 1000 misuses by family members.........and that's probably being VERY charitable.
I'd venture to say it will be used by a minimum of 25% of estranged wive's laywers
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:39 pm to texridder
quote:
quote:
The violently insane should be locked up. The non-violent insane have a right to self defense.
The question is -- do you wait for a vicious dog to bite? That's not a perfect analogy, but in the end, does it make sense a wait for someone who is insane to exhibit violence?
Which side do you err on?
The side of liberty, every time.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:48 pm to AggieHank86
I oppose the concept. Nothing short of a criminal trial by jury should be capable of taking away an individuals' gun rights.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:48 pm to texridder
quote:
Which side do you want to err on?
The side of liberty.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:49 pm to texridder
quote:
So if an insane person has guns, do you just sit back and wait to see what happens?
If you can prove he's insane, he can be forcibly committed. It's a shame everyone wants to do the end around on this.
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