re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & Fauci

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Love all the armchair presidents with the retrospectoscope on this board. Yes he made mistakes, primarily listening to Fauci, but no one including Desantis would have handled it any better. Covid was an all out plot to destroy Trump manipulated by the Dims, MSM & the Deep State. Handling an essentially unprecedented national medical crisis (at least promoted as 1 by the “medical professionals”) is not nearly as simple as handling at the state level

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Nothing is as (de)sanctimonious as pretending Trump made huge errors during covid, that anyone would have done any better, and that Trump should've magically had all the data in March, 2020, that we do here in June, 2023.

Trump handled it pretty damn well with the information he had, the enemies he had pushing against him, and the overall stupidity of the average person.

And then when he appointed Dr Scott Atlas (radiologist) as his advisor, the medical community and media blasted him. Needless to say, Atlas was not in agreement with most of Fauci's recommendations.

I know it's hard for you to accept but "any" President at the time would have followed the "medical expert's" advice

I'm not saying Trump was "perfect". I'm saying they all would have made similar mistakes. If you can't distinguish between what I'm saying and "messianic language", then you need to take more reading comprehension courses.

"Trump made mistakes" does not equate to "messianic language".
The messiah is "perfect"

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Anyone in that position would have done the same.

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No.

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Oh really?

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Princess cruise ship with 'sick' passengers wants to dock in South Florida

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However, Governor Ron DeSantis has repeatedly said the state's resources cannot handle the sick passengers on board the cruise ships. “Just to drop people off at the place where we’re having the highest number of cases right now just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense,” DeSantis said.

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President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he would speak to DeSantis about the ships. “They’re dying on the ship,” Trump said. “I’m going to do what’s right. Not only for us, but for humanity.”

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Hmmmmmmmmm

And why are you still backing Rob? He folded to the medical science, and was dead set on letting people die. There are receipts for all DeSasters covid shite. And it isnt a good look

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Love all the armchair presidents with the retrospectoscope on this board. Yes he made mistakes, primarily listening to Fauci, but no one including Desantis would have handled it any better. Covid was an all out plot to destroy Trump manipulated by the Dims, MSM & the Deep State. Handling an essentially unprecedented national medical crisis (at least promoted as 1 by the “medical professionals”) is not nearly as simple as handling at the state level

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Agreed /\

He was in a catch 22 - he HAD to treat the COVID virus with the extreme processes they did - it was a real existential threat - and the only ones who KNEW it was not are the ones who launched it on the nation to begin with.

He did NOT go overboard - EXCEPT to put the vaccine on "warp speed" - and that was the right thing to do. What other option did he have?? the DEMs didn't want a 'quick solution' - they wanted the pandemic pandemonium to accelerate.

He DID try to get alternate TREATMENTs considered - there is NO WAY he could have evidence on his own to completely disassemble the CDC/NIH/WHO et al - Anyone who blames him for those failures an just searching for an excuse to hate on him.

Looking back - I don't see where he could have done substantially better than he did. I was impressed at the way he handled it overall. One has to resort to "Monday morning QB" mode to find substantial fault.

I was TOTALLY CONVINCED this thing was a PLANNED ATTACK from the git-go - but what EVIDENCE did I have??? - ZILCH.

It was just that I never believe in these kinds of 'coincidences' - But no leader can take the chance of 100s of millions of deaths because he has a "hunch." Thank God I was not in charge.

He basically let Fauci pound him in the arse.

Agree with everything you said. What option did he have other than to listen to the “experts”. Even the medical community was deeply divided. He was inundated with conflicting advice, much from an enemy that was intent on destroying him. No one on this board has any clue what the weight of millions of lives on your shoulders feels like

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What option did he have other than to listen to the “experts”. Even the medical community was deeply divided.

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These two sentences are instructive. Can't one imply that he could have listened to the other side of the deeply divided medical community, and in doing so would have done far better for the country?

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He was inundated with conflicting advice, much from an enemy that was intent on destroying him.

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Why would he take the advice from those hellbent on destroying him, and not follow the advice of those looking to preserve the good work he had done in his first three years?

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No one on this board has any clue what the weight of millions of lives on your shoulders feels like

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This is true, but this supports my arguments as much as it does yours.

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was that data all accepted by all the experts??

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Of course not. It still isn't. The real world doesn't work in black and white.

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This is ESPECIALLY true when those "EXPERTS" are part of a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY to destroy the presidency.

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I don't know why anybody believes this statement is a defense of Trump's handling of Covid.

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Name someone who 'could have done better' - based on what was known THEN.

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This isn't a 25 word answer type question, and it's conjecture to boot. What I will say is that there were tens of millions of people that knew what was happening in real time - certainly to a degree that would cause a rational person to tap the brakes on what turned into the Covid response shitshow.