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re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by David_DJS on 6/8/23 at 3:39 pm to minister of truth
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Handling an essentially unprecedented national medical crisis (at least promoted as 1 by the “medical professionals”)
After all the lying done by the Left about existential threat after existential threat over the last 25 years, a conservative had to be retarded to have fallen for the Covid is a national emergency ruse.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Vacherie Saint on 6/8/23 at 3:42 pm to rmnldr
are you an OnlyRon or a Dem Socialist?
I cant tell the difference.
I cant tell the difference.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Auburn1968 on 6/8/23 at 3:42 pm to Tridentds
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Follow the science they said.
Science says we have to isolate and wear masks.
Science says we have to keep people at home to slow the curve.
Trump has to follow the science they said.
Science was all kinds of fricked up wrong but let's focus on Trump doing what most of the medical community and virtually all of the media was saying we should do.
After the early case of the cruise ship Diamond Princess, it was well established that covid killed the old and weak almost exclusively. That was hard evidence vs. the Chicken Littles and medically induced socialism camp.
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OK, here are my questions. We had a perfect petri-dish coronavirus disease (COVID-19) experiment with the cruise ship “Diamond Princess”. That’s the cruise ship that ended up in quarantine for a number of weeks after a number of people tested positive for the coronavirus. I got to wondering what the outcome of the experiment was.
So I dug around and found an analysis of the situation, with the catchy title of Estimating the infection and case fatality ratio for COVID-19 using age-adjusted data from the outbreak on the Diamond Princess cruise ship (PDF), so I could see what the outcomes were.
As you might imagine, before they knew it was a problem, the epidemic raged on the ship, with infected crew members cooking and cleaning for the guests, people all eating together, close living quarters, lots of social interaction, and a generally older population. Seems like a perfect situation for an overwhelming majority of the passengers to become infected.
And despite that, some 83% (82.7% – 83.9%) of the passengers never got the disease at all … why?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan on 6/8/23 at 3:43 pm to rmnldr
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Let’s make it very clear. These images, while very realistic and believable, are not real:
I posted a real photo though.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by minister of truth on 6/8/23 at 3:48 pm to David_DJS
This was not just the left. They were able to work the general public into a panic. Did you not see most shelves completely empty? Many were worked up into a frenzy and wanted to lynch Trump no matter which direction he went. I used to follow medical social media and it was unbelievable how angry/TDS driven many of the medical “professionals” were! And the general public was clueless. They would have fully supported Trump tried for crimes against humanity.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Vacherie Saint on 6/8/23 at 3:50 pm to Auburn1968
Its so easy now to look back with the benefit of hindsight, but no one knew wtf was the right play. Certainly, Fauci was duplicitous and deceptive, but we never knew this until it was already too late. As much praise as Ron gets (and deserves) he too, locked down all the way up until the 2020 election. I've always said that Trump's greatest mistake was believing there were still a few good people in government. There arent.
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Anyone in that position would have done the same.
No.
And if history is a guide, that we refuse to hold anybody accountable for the Covid response shitshow just means we're going to get another "national emergency" soon that'll make 2020 an example of good/efficient government.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by minister of truth on 6/8/23 at 3:57 pm to Vacherie Saint
Agree! by the time he realized that the powers to be were working against him, it was too late. They were fighting him whenever he tried to have the states open back up or when it was even mentioned that he may fire Fauci, main stream media and the medical establishment would work the public into a frenzy. Sad thing is I knew in 2021 that all the negative issues that developed as a result of the “crisis“ would be laid at trump’s feet, and therefore the powers against him would continue winning as we are witnessing now
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re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by idlewatcher on 6/8/23 at 3:58 pm to rmnldr
You meatballs are melty today.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by David_DJS on 6/8/23 at 4:03 pm to minister of truth
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Agree! by the time he realized that the powers to be were working against him, it was too late.
After the Russia hoax, 2 bogus impeachments, "he won't renounce white supremacy!" and all the other absolute bullshite heaved his way by the powers that be, why the frick did it take more than half a second for him to realize Covid was just the next thing?
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by minister of truth on 6/8/23 at 4:07 pm to David_DJS
Well, my memory may be off, but one of the impeachments, I believe, was towards the end of his term. Also, the Russian “hoax“ was still very much alive and propagated by the powers to be with many in the public falling for it. Even now after it’s been proven multiple times to be false, there are still a huge number of believers.
It is truly astounding how many forces were against Trump and still are. That should tell you something right there.
It is truly astounding how many forces were against Trump and still are. That should tell you something right there.
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re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Vacherie Saint on 6/8/23 at 4:09 pm to David_DJS
he was trying to get reelected, and the central theme of Biden's campaign was trashing him on Covid. Its not like he had nothing to lose.
but again, lets not pretend that he was somehow out of step with leaders of the entire planet, or even his own states. He did a lot of great things... travel bans when appropriate, tearing down bureaucracies, and trusting states to make the right decisions for themselves. His mistake was trusting the wrong people, but once the world knew what Fauci was up to, its was too late.
but again, lets not pretend that he was somehow out of step with leaders of the entire planet, or even his own states. He did a lot of great things... travel bans when appropriate, tearing down bureaucracies, and trusting states to make the right decisions for themselves. His mistake was trusting the wrong people, but once the world knew what Fauci was up to, its was too late.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Vacherie Saint on 6/8/23 at 4:12 pm to minister of truth
he was retroactively impeached by dems after he lost.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by David_DJS on 6/8/23 at 4:14 pm to minister of truth
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Well, my memory may be off, but one of the impeachments, I believe, was towards the end of his term.
You're right about the second impeachment, but you follow my point. There were plenty of reasons in 2020 to be skeptical of everything the Left/MSM tried to sell us.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Marcus Aurelius on 6/8/23 at 4:15 pm to rmnldr
The TRUMP vaccine
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by minister of truth on 6/8/23 at 4:18 pm to Marcus Aurelius
This is an example of why Trump was in a no-win situation. When it is used as a negative connotation, the powers to be win. Before when people were refusing the vaccination, and it was being mandated, it was the narrative that Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine.
re: Let’s get this clear about Trump & FauciPosted by Vacherie Saint on 6/8/23 at 4:22 pm to David_DJS
Agreed, but it wasnt just the American left who would have blasted him regardless of his actions. Consider this; had Trump known then what we know now, and acted accordingly, he would have faced the scorn and ridicule of the entire world. He would have a complete rogue against the recommendations of virtually every expert on the subject on earth. He followed, more or less, the same blueprint that the global scientific community was espousing - which was rooted mainly in an abundance of caution in the face of ignorance. Had he not taken that path, he would have had no shot at reelection. Even DeSantis was locked down until late September 2020, right before the election. Its really dishonest to suggest Ron got it right and Trump got it wrong. They were working with the same information - which we now know was a bunch of Pharma driven lies.
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