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re: Let’s get a standard of what qualifies for a national emergency
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:43 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:43 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:how about millions of illegal aliens entering our country every year.
Let’s get a standard of what qualifies for a national emergency
That about sums up the national emergency
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:43 pm to boosiebadazz
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boosiebadazz
Whether I liked you or not. I believe in freedom. Even when I have a choice to deny it under the guise of another institutions rules.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:45 pm to CptBengal
Certainly. I had this big idea to tie my ridiculous banishment to the larger idea here that the government should/ should not regulate Google for banning conservatives, but then I started drinking wine and watching basketball.
But apparently you’re one of the few men of principle here
But apparently you’re one of the few men of principle here
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:46 pm to boosiebadazz
No. And I'm sorry for you that you felt the need to reply in such a fashion.
Have a nice evening.
Have a nice evening.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:47 pm to boosiebadazz
Welcome Back!
The B squad was embarrassing themselves in your absence.
The B squad was embarrassing themselves in your absence.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:47 pm to RJYH
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DEFLECT
It's a legit discussion and honestly one that should draw more responses. It has far reaching, long term ramifications. This is truly a bipartisan issue.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:48 pm to IllegalPete
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The B squad was embarrassing themselves in your absence.
I’ll do my best to hasten the decline
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:50 pm to CleverUserName
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The nuclear option and writing law by EO is too.
A huge mistake made by the right is the thought of “if we decline to do this... the left will also decline it when they are presented with the possibility”.
It’s an absolutely false assumption.
This.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:50 pm to boosiebadazz
What a stupid question.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:52 pm to WoWyHi
It is. Under the law as it is today, Obama could have declared global warming a national emergency and had incredibly powerful options open to him on what he could do unilaterally. As long as the Dems had one chamber and wouldn’t pass a resolution ending the emergency it would be up to the courts and injunctions (and him obeying the injunction).
The phrase “national emergency” is exactly what you do not want individual courts defining in this context. Talk about judicial activism and ruling via politics
The phrase “national emergency” is exactly what you do not want individual courts defining in this context. Talk about judicial activism and ruling via politics
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:54 pm to WoWyHi
quote:border security is within the jurisdiction of the president, restricting guns is a violation of the constitution. I understand what you’re saying, but there are some boundaries
Next Dem President will declare mass shooting and guns. This is why it's bad. Then the next Republican President says abortion is, etc.
This isn't a good path to head down.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:55 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Where are the boundaries
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:58 pm to Powerman
Sure, but again. You still can't set standards on the unknown. Maybe you can require a congressional element to it, but that could be problematic if there were, say a coup attempt.
We've been in a perpetual state of emergency since the Carter administration. Maybe dems can work with republicans on border issues and we wouldn't need to bother with one more.
We've been in a perpetual state of emergency since the Carter administration. Maybe dems can work with republicans on border issues and we wouldn't need to bother with one more.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:00 pm to Vacherie Saint
I think requiring both chambers to override the declaration is problematic and shortsighted. Requiring just one chamber would stop situations like this. If it’s truly an emergent situation requiring the increased unilateral powers then it would be a rally around the flag situation in which both parties are on board. 9/11, Pearl Harbor, etc.
Requiring one chamber to nullify would be a good start.
Requiring one chamber to nullify would be a good start.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:02 pm to Powerman
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Right. But as pointed out this could be a dangerous precedent and executive overreach.
Let's say in 2024 a far left candidate wins and declares climate change a national emergency and mandates a 3 dollar a gallon increase on federal excise taxes on all hydrocarbon based fuels. Could you see that being problematic? I could
This is exactly what would happen. Threatening to declare a national emergency (or to not declare one after a disaster, etc) because of congressional unwillingness should get a president impeached and removed.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:03 pm to bmy
Political expediency still counts for something.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:03 pm to boosiebadazz
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Can we get some universal standard established
Illegal, smelly, criminal alien rapists, and violent gang members invading the country would be 1.
There must be more.
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