re: Let’s get a standard of what qualifies for a national emergency

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so the next Dem president can’t declare a national emergency and do whatever he/she wants?

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There are like 28 current national emergencies active. Trump will not be the catalyst to them thinking they are able to use it.

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It is. Under the law as it is today, Obama could have declared global warming a national emergency and had incredibly powerful options open to him on what he could do unilaterally.

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The problem with that is you cannot show any adverse actions to the country.

They would point to drought in California. Has it happened before? Yes. Was it claimed then? No.

They would point to Midwest floods. Has it happened before? Yes. Was it claimed then? No.

They would point to hurricanes. Happened? Yes. Claimed? No.

They would point to winter storms.
Happened? Yes. Claimed? No

Conditions leading to fires.. yes.. no.

Tornados.. yes.. no.

You cannot show, without a doubt, a provable adverse effect of “climate change” so a claim of a national emergency is a no go. It would be like claiming a national emergency over Cuba invading Florida.

“What is the emergency?”

“We are being invaded by Cuba’s navy!!”

“Where?!”

“South Florida!”

“Uhh.. mr president.. that is 10 Cubans on a raft made of plastic drums and duct tape”.

Climate change is basically the same argument. The mythical president says Cubans are on a ship steaming to Key West. Evidence shows it’s a raft taking on water.

Stats are there for defense of the southern border. They were laid out to the speaker and Senate minority leader. The claims are based on actual stats. A discernible amount of money paid to support.... crime stats.... cartel violence near the border... a pathway of drugs into the country to continue to fuel the opioid epidemic..thousands of illegals marching at once on the southern border with no way to prove intent or who is actually in the crowd.

Guns? Little problem with a number 2 in a founding document.

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Consider more local issues like Obama declaring a state of emergency over Flints water issues. You really want Senate republicans wiping that away? What if there were a pest epidemic that hobbled the iowa corn industry? Today's House dems wouldn't hesitate to #resist aid to a state Trump expects to carry.

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Politics would make this impractical as well. If they’re legit emergencies with legit victims then politicians aren’t going to want to be on record opposing them, regardless of party affiliation.

You shouldn’t be able to threaten to declare a national emergency to force someone to the table to negotiate.

Courts shouldn’t be in the business of taking posts like the one above yours and deciding if that is a “national emergency”. That’s wildly speculative, subjective, and turns the courts into overt political animals.

It’s terrible for constituional roles and constraints.

because he’s threatening to declare it and has not actually done so yet. Because the GOP held all chambers and the presidency not a year ago and did absolutely nothing to address it.

You guys think you hate Roberts for his ACA decision now? Just wait until this gets to him

How is what’s going on with rising sea levels and temperatures not an emergency?

*I don’t actually believe global warming is an emergency, but you’re a fool if you don’t think a Dem admin can’t cherry pick stats and run to the 9th and get it approved. Even if SCOTUS overturns it’s still not the way to structure government and implement policy.*

It’s really, really bad macro policy to have courts deciding this. It invites a trampling over checks and balances.

If trump declared a national emergency to build the wall on powers outlined in national security regulations he still has to withstand the Dems filing a lawsuit. Trump is making the move because he thinks he can win in court. The Dems will have to decide if they want to continue the shutdown to ride out the court case.

You're comparing heart disease and a constitutionally protected right to migrants sneaking into the country.

By most estimates, there are as many illegals in the united staes as there are americans with cardiovascular disease. Get some perspective.

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This belongs in the political process in the legislative branch.

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Is Trump not trying to do this?

I can’t wait to cherry pick stats for you after President Warren’s multiple declarations of national emergencies

But Vach, economic inequality/unaffordable healthcare/ global warming really is an emergency here’s a cherry-picked stat to justify my position