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re: Let’s get a standard of what qualifies for a national emergency
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:56 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:56 pm to boosiebadazz
Dems will claim Global Warming is a National Emergency.
Dems claim Trump being prez is a national emergency.
Dems claim Trump being prez is a national emergency.
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:58 pm to boosiebadazz
Again, i feel like ive said this at least three times now. Trump doesn't want to do this and is trying to get dems to deal. Why won't they deal? They were all for a fence just a few years ago. If the governemnt could work together, we would never need to declare a national state of emergency.
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President Warren
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:59 pm to djmicrobe
It’s going to be glorious when Roberts notes the GOP had both chambers and the presidency within the last year yet failed to authorize a wall and that Trump has threatened to declare an emergency for months as reasons it is not an actual emergency as contemplated by Congress in passing the law.
It’s oxymoronic, but the more DJT waits to declare it then the weaker it makes his ultimate case.
It’s oxymoronic, but the more DJT waits to declare it then the weaker it makes his ultimate case.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:00 pm to SDVTiger
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How is what's going on at the border not an emergency
That's your opinion. Replace "what's going on at the border" with any liberal grievance and repeat it out loud until you realize it's a bad idea.
I'll give you one just to make it easy
"How is wealth inequality not a national emergency?"
See the problem yet?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:01 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Again, i feel like ive said this at least three times now. Trump doesn't want to do this and is trying to get dems to deal. Why won't they deal? They were all for a fence just a few years ago. If the governemnt could work together, we would never need to declare a national state of emergency.
Trump is pushing for the foregone conclusion that he gets a wall. Part of legislating is choosing not to legislate. Same thing as Republicans choosing not to consider Merrick Garland.
But I’m glad you acknowledged this belongs in the legislative branch and Trump is just posturing for leverage
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:02 pm to Vacherie Saint
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President Warren
that’s my boogeyman for you. I just thought of a new one.... President AOC
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:03 pm to Powerman
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That's your opinion.
This can be said about 100% of national emergencies. That's the point. It's the Presidents discretion (opinion).
Obama declared the water situation in Flint Michigan as a state of emergency. Did conservatives back then start thread on how we need to change how emergencies are declared?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:08 pm to boosiebadazz
Dumbass, we’re in the middle of a 17 year “pause” in global warming. So explain to me how we humans, who have increased our activity every single year, could possibly affect the climate if there is a pause in activity whilst ours, the ones supposedly causing it, has increased exponentially? This is so illogical.
What we have going on at the border is a legitimate issue. We have opioids pouring through this border every single day by the ton. We have human traffickers and pedophiles pretending to be children’s parents so as to receive special treatment from border officials. The people who come here, regardless of whether or not they have good intentions, are a massive burden on our entire system. They depend on government assistance at a much higher level. And those that get jobs do so at the expense of American citizens. You think this is isn’t a problem, but I can assure you that one day you will see it for what it is. I live in Houston, and I see it every damn day.
What we have going on at the border is a legitimate issue. We have opioids pouring through this border every single day by the ton. We have human traffickers and pedophiles pretending to be children’s parents so as to receive special treatment from border officials. The people who come here, regardless of whether or not they have good intentions, are a massive burden on our entire system. They depend on government assistance at a much higher level. And those that get jobs do so at the expense of American citizens. You think this is isn’t a problem, but I can assure you that one day you will see it for what it is. I live in Houston, and I see it every damn day.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:10 pm to boosiebadazz
How about if we say it’s a national emergency any time a Constitutional mandate is not being obeyed by the federal government, which is costing the American taxpayer 130 billion or more every year?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:11 pm to boosiebadazz
This seems melty.
Is this a melt? I can't tell anymore.
Is this a melt? I can't tell anymore.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:20 pm to jnethe1
[insert liberal diatribe about global warming or income inequality or whatever else the topic du jour is]
Yep, ^ see, President AOC is justified in her declaration of a national emergency and she should be able to yield sweeping, extraordinary unilateral powers.
Yep, ^ see, President AOC is justified in her declaration of a national emergency and she should be able to yield sweeping, extraordinary unilateral powers.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:20 pm to boosiebadazz
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Where are the boundaries
The Constitution. Same place the boundaries have always been.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:24 pm to boosiebadazz
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I think requiring both chambers to override the declaration is problematic and shortsighted. Requiring just one chamber would stop situations like this. If it’s truly an emergent situation requiring the increased unilateral powers then it would be a rally around the flag situation in which both parties are on board. 9/11, Pearl Harbor, etc.
Sure, if there was any semblance of statesmanship left among the pieces of crap we send to Washington. Member about ten years ago, when democrats wanted a physical barrier on the border? I member.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:26 pm to boosiebadazz
Wtf are all the doenvotes? It’s a legit question. Standard cannot simply be “whatever the president thinks is an emergency,” even if there is no second guessing it by a court. We the people should have our own standard in mind.
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:27 pm to boosiebadazz
Income inequality is due to people’s own decisions. No one is forcing people to make bad decisions. So we’d have a national emergency over people making bad decisions? I think not...
Global warming is a hoax haus, how the hell can we have a “pause” if we, the cause of it, have been increasing our activity exponentially? Not logical...
Global warming is a hoax haus, how the hell can we have a “pause” if we, the cause of it, have been increasing our activity exponentially? Not logical...
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:29 pm to boosiebadazz
The border is a legitimate issue. You may not have been impacted, but you will eventually. If we have enough of them, and they vote for socialism like they have in their own shithole countries, then what do you think will happen here? We will be a socialist shothole too..
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:29 pm to jnethe1
Dude, I don’t care about your individual opinion on global warming or income inequality. All I care is that President AOC said it was an emergency and I can cherry pick stats to justify that position so therefore she should get extraordinary powers to do what she wants to address the “problem”.
How is this escaping you?
How is this escaping you?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:39 pm to boosiebadazz
It’s not my individual opinion, these are facts. I don’t care if you like them, they are facts. You can’t just legislate based on whether or not you think you have the moral high ground. Facts matter. Global warming is a tool used by the elites to make dumbasses give up their rights..
And income inequality is simply a result of some people making good decisions and others making bad ones. There is no way in hell this could logically be thought of as a legitimate problem..
You seem to have the inability to recognize the real problem here. You think it’s hard for our lower income citizens now? Wait until we have a massive group of people who are used to working for a few dollars a day. They will do anything and any hopes of wage increases will be gone. Not to mention that all job opportunities that were once there for the lower income families will be overtaken by the people crossing our border. These people will have no affect on me, they can’t compete with me. But for the low income families of America, it will be atrocious.
And income inequality is simply a result of some people making good decisions and others making bad ones. There is no way in hell this could logically be thought of as a legitimate problem..
You seem to have the inability to recognize the real problem here. You think it’s hard for our lower income citizens now? Wait until we have a massive group of people who are used to working for a few dollars a day. They will do anything and any hopes of wage increases will be gone. Not to mention that all job opportunities that were once there for the lower income families will be overtaken by the people crossing our border. These people will have no affect on me, they can’t compete with me. But for the low income families of America, it will be atrocious.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:45 pm to boosiebadazz
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Let’s get a standard of what qualifies for a national emergency
Buzzfeed is a national disaster.
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But let’s assume tomorrow he announces a national emergency and gets the wall built. Can we get some universal standard established so the next Dem president can’t declare a national emergency and do whatever he/she wants?
That is what the 3rd branch of government is for.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:18 am to boosiebadazz
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Because the GOP held all chambers and the presidency not a year ago and did absolutely nothing to address it.
This is false. You need to review and get back.
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