re: Leftists….”keep religion out of politics!”

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Christians: "There is no separation of church and state."

Also Christians: *Shocked Pikachu face*

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We feel the same thing about atheists pushing secular humanism on society.

One of the big problems with the 1st amendment is that when it was written, religion was the dominant influence on worldviews and ideology. Now, there are many worldviews that do not have religion as a direct or primary influence, so Christians are now penalized because we have a competing worldview to the secular humanist and atheist, but because Christianity is a recognized religion, Christianity doesn't have a seat at the ideological table when it comes to influence on public policy, at least overtly.

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We feel the same thing about atheists pushing secular humanism on society.

One of the big problems with the 1st amendment is that when it was written, religion was the dominant influence on worldviews and ideology. Now, there are many worldviews that do not have religion as a direct or primary influence, so Christians are now penalized because we have a competing worldview to the secular humanist and atheist, but because Christianity is a recognized religion, Christianity doesn't have a seat at the ideological table when it comes to influence on public policy, at least overtly.

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What does atheism have to do with Muslims injecting their religion into our government because there isn't a separation of church and state?

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I'm going beyond Islam to point out that all religions are at a disadvantage when it comes to overt public policy and regulation because there are competing views of origins and morality, and yet the atheist can openly push his viewpoints because it's not based in religion while the Christian can't, because his view is based in religion, even though both are really talking about their respective worldviews.

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The only disadvantage that's suffered is the ability to use a holy book as a magic trump card.

If you can rationalize your religious beliefs outside "The invisible being I worship says so" you're ideas/claims/beliefs will still be entertained and potentially be implemented into law.

If all you have is assertions of divine intervention, then the aforementioned wall is meant to keep such ideas/claims out.

This has angered many Christians, who find it very difficult to rationalize some of their beliefs. So they claim there's no wall at all.

No wall? Good, enjoy Mamdani and company doing the same shite you want to do.

But but but freedom......

I cant stand these people any longer......time to segment the USA!

It's a question of faith in Jesus as our savior. He is the Son of God and came to our world to die for our sins. I just pray for our country that regardless of how you all feel about this, that one day our country will turn back to Christ and elect people who carry the banner of Christ.

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The only disadvantage that's suffered is the ability to use a holy book as a magic trump card.

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Truth is what is at stake, not just the use of a book. We're talking about foundations of truth.

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If you can rationalize your religious beliefs outside "The invisible being I worship says so" you're ideas/claims/beliefs will still be entertained and potentially be implemented into law.

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As a Christian, I would argue philosophically that a secular and atheistic worldview is not rational in itself, and therefore any and all ideas/claims/beliefs that are based in materialistic naturalism are arbitrary and not supported. Therefore, the Christian has a philosophical leg-up on the atheist when it comes to rationale for policy.

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If all you have is assertions of divine intervention, then the aforementioned wall is meant to keep such ideas/claims out.

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I don't. I have a philosophical trump card that is supports and is supported by divine revelation (reality comports to God's revelation), and secular humanism based on materialistic naturalism is unsupported and even irrational. We are, in a sense, "stuck" with such irrationality by default because it is not based on formal religion.

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This has angered many Christians, who find it very difficult to rationalize some of their beliefs. So they claim there's no wall at all.

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That doesn't mean Christianity is irrational or unsupported. It just means angry Christians need to do their homework.

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No wall? Good, enjoy Mamdani and company doing the same shite you want to do.

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Yeah, I'll fight against that just as much as atheistic worldviews that are already tolerated and promoted.

Islam is a fair bit older than Socialism.

America's Founding Fathers knew Islam wasn't compatible with the West.

Isn’t there a Christian based national prayer breakfast on Capitol Hill?

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"Vote Blue No Matter Who" is going to cost so many liberals their freedom. And they are so dense they couldn't see it coming.

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Giving power to any political group in any civilization in the history of the world, with cult like fanaticism, is a recipe for losing one’s freedom. That applies to both the right and left today.

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Christians. Even amidst our differences, we're still Christians, and generally speaking, we are not fans of being excluded in favor of atheism.

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Being excluded in favor of atheism?

Do you think building a wall between church and state necessarily makes the government atheistic? Or are you referencing something specific?