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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:24 am to LeonPhelps
quote:I get what you're saying, and would take some issues with your argument, but not in this thread. However, I do think a shrinking middle class is problematic for this country's long-term future, and that's the context I was referring to with respect to "the income gap" problem.
Solution indicates a problem exists. I have yet to hear an explanation outside of envy as to why differences in income is a bad thing. If everyone made the same, what motivation is there to work harder since you cannot earn more for it or you are taxed more as a percentage the more you make? One person making more money does not mean a different person can afford less. I hate this income inequality bullshite with more passion than anything else I have ever encountered.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:34 am to VOR
quote:
Documentary films are not really intended to be completely unbiased.
maybe post-michael moore. documentary films are supposed to document, not promote. michael moore fundamentally changed that
i think there should be 2 categories. narrated documentaries and pure documentaries
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:34 am to LSUgusto
quote:
However, I do think a shrinking middle class is problematic for this country's long-term future,
what is the middle class? what is the amount of "shrinking" involved?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:35 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
this is mainly due to that fat piece of shite michael moore. while i don't agree with his politics, hypocrisy, and demeanor, i truly hate the man for destroying the documentary
Yup. He took it from "informative and unbiased" to "hey this is a problem and I know why so listen to me!"
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:38 am to LSUgusto
Waiting for Superman is on Netflix right?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:40 am to LSUgusto
u might be interested in "Atomic Cafe"
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:41 am to VOR
quote:
Documentary films are not really intended to be completely unbiased.
I agree that's true as long as the bias doesn't supplant accuracy. Then it could begin to border on propaganda.
Its difficult to control personal bias; especially on subjects important enough to motivate you to film a documentary.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:42 am to LSUgusto
quote:I have NetFlix too:
I re-subscribed to Netflix and started checking out the documentaries.
Inequality for All – A case about the “crisis of the widening economic gap”
Park Avenue – The street that exemplifies the “widening gap between rich and poor”
The Flaw – Investigates the cause of run of the 2008 collapse
Citizen Koch – The mounting struggle between money and democracy
We’re Not Broke – Frustrated citizens protest corporate taxation
Mitt
America 2016
Police State
The Obama Deception
Fall of the Republic
Client 9
Wow, I can make a list of "Righty" documentaries based on the first 4 pages of political documentaries (out of 27 pages).
The beauty of documentaries is that they can be fact checked by a discerning viewer. Just like your post claiming that there is such a huge political slant on NetFlix.
Based on how afraid you are of documentaries I am going to guess that you are rather simple minded. I guess you support book burning and can't understand why most of your views aren't supported by most people you know. You probably attribute it to media propaganda.
amiright?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:47 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:
Inequality for All - one and a half stars
Park Avenue - one star
The Flaw - two and a half stars
Citizen Koch - one star
Let them be viewed. They are clearly not resonating with the viewers.
I'm guessing that you were looking at your personal, predictive rating.
Actual user rankings:
Inequality for All- 4.3 stars
Park Avenue- 3.9
The Flaw- 3.9
Citizen Koch- 3.8
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:48 am to LSUgusto
My SO and I are documentary obsessed. We watch several a week. I enjoyed Inequality for All. While I don't always agree with the ideas presented, I like learning about different views. And almost always in political pieces, I come away either having learned something new or with a new view of something. That doesn't mean my own beliefs change as a result, but I can have appreciation for why others feel the way they do about certain topics. There's one on Brietbart that's pretty interesting. Documentaries aren't just made by people on the left.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:53 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:
I agree that's true as long as the bias doesn't supplant accuracy. Then it could begin to border on propaganda.
I would say most documentaries are some sort of propaganda or intended to support one view over the other and there's not really anything wrong with that. The problem I have is with the viewers who don't know any better and accept information at face value.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:57 am to northshorebamaman
quote:
I'm guessing that you were looking at your personal, predictive rating.
I think you're right. ThanksPosted on 12/28/14 at 12:04 pm to LSUgusto
Runaway slave is on there. Anything but left documentary
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:07 pm to ragacamps
"The Art of the Steal" is really good. Just obliterates Philadelphia's government.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
The problem I have is with the viewers who don't know any better and accept information at face value
Very true. At times the same could be said about the evening news.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:08 pm to VOR
quote:It doesn't mean it by definition but in reality, that's been the case. It seems the only folks taking the time to do documentaries are full of shite and totally willing to just flat make shite up to sell their point.
Documentary films are not really intended to be completely unbiased. But that doesn't mean they are inaccurate or unfair.
It's so bad that really, they shouldn't be called documentaries anymore. It's an insult to the genre.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:10 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Sadly, while I'm not familiar with all of the documentaries listed, I somehow suspect that the ones you listed do no more justice to the documentary genre than the lefty ones in the OP.
Mitt
America 2016
Police State
The Obama Deception
Fall of the Republic
Client 9
Wow, I can make a list of "Righty" documentaries based on the first 4 pages of political documentaries
Hence, why I don't waste my time with documentaries.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:13 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
I somehow suspect that the ones you listed do no more justice to the documentary genre than the lefty ones in the OP.
they don't
michael moore's success + proliferation of cheap digital cameras, editing, etc + streaming have made creating a personal platform to unleash your politics or views cheap and easily distributed
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The sad part is that despite the fact that pretty much anyone under 40 should be fairly familiar with the fact video can be edited or even just flat made up, people STILL have a tendency to believe anything they see on video.
michael moore's success + proliferation of cheap digital cameras, editing, etc + streaming have made creating a personal platform to unleash your politics or views cheap and easily distributed
As for the poster who said you can "fact check" documentaries. This true but really, why even watch a documentary on say, homelessness, if I know that the moment I'm done I'm going to have to research homelessness myself? Seems to me I can skip a step and save time.
It used to be that a film maker doing a doc might just be selective with facts. Alas, now, they are flat out all good with lying, presenting fake video, video edited so egregiously it might as well be fake and so on.
That's just a waste of my time.
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