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re: Leftism on Netflix

Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:19 pm to
Moreover, once people see these things, debunking them is nigh on impossible.

I've a cousin who loves the Gasland docs. She KNOWS and ACCEPTS that the makers made some shite up. Didn't get some things wrong, just MADE SOME shite UP!!

Does this make her question the credibility of the parts of the film where people can't prove the filmmaker's were playing fast and loose? Nope.

Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:26 pm to
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amiright?
No. I never lamented the existence of left-leaning docs because I actually like to watch them, in direct opposition of your assertion that I'm "afraid" of them. My point, two-fold, was to note the far fewer number of right-leaning pieces on similar topics, and that the right might benefit from delving more into this medium. Your post was a bad miss.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I enjoyed Inequality for All. While I don't always agree with the ideas presented, I like learning about different views. And almost always in political pieces, I come away either having learned something new or with a new view of something.
Same here. I like the documentary format, but would like to see more from the right to answer many of the assertions from the left ones.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:31 pm to
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My point, two-fold, was to note the far fewer number of right-leaning pieces on similar topics, and that the right might benefit from delving more into this medium.
Well, your first point was an assumption, not fact. Therefore your second point (based on the first) is irrelevant.

Now maybe it's true that there are more "lefty" documentaries that "righties". but I would say that you have a larger personal definition of what is "lefty" than most people as well. Either way, you didn't establish a fact. If you were making a documentary people would turn it off in the first 5 minutes.

At least far reaching documentaries are generally based on facts in the beginning to build there case and tend to stretch the truth later on.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:37 pm to
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you have a larger personal definition of what is "lefty" than most people
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If you were making a documentary people would turn it off
Speaking of assumptions, you sure seem to jump to a lot of them, and wrongly, I might add. Sheesh!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Same here. I like the documentary format, but would like to see more from the right to answer many of the assertions from the left ones.


You'll find some, but they generally aren't popular. Propaganda sells better than fact.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:44 pm to
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You'll find some, but they generally aren't popular.
I've seen a few, and have enjoyed some while cringing during others, which is probably why they lack popularity. I think better quality docs to put on Netflix would be a good investment for the right, especially to counter the resented slants espoused by the MSM and Hollywood.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Speaking of assumptions, you sure seem to jump to a lot of them, and wrongly, I might add. Sheesh!
You don't seem to understand the definition of "fact" or "evidence". When you show either one in this thread maybe we can talk.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:47 pm to
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I've seen a few, and have enjoyed some while cringing during others, which is probably why they lack popularity. I think better quality docs to put on Netflix would be a good investment for the right, especially to counter the resented slants espoused by the MSM and Hollywood.


The right sucks at propaganda, they are losing that war. Also, industries like film, media, communications are dominated by folks who lean left.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:07 pm to
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You don't seem to understand the definition of "fact" or "evidence".
Another wrong assumption. You're on a roll!
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When you show either one in this thread maybe we can talk.
After perusing all of the titles and topics, and watching a good number of them, the left clearly dominates the Netflix venue. That's all the facts and evidence I need. If you disagree, I'm not going to argue with you, nor go title-by-title to hash it out. But, your pointing out a handful of right-leaning documentaries doesn't negate my broader observation.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:11 pm to
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The right sucks at propaganda
Yep. And comedy.

The right needs to learn how to appeal to the emotional thinkers out there, or they'll continue to lose the propaganda wars.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:20 pm to
I am pretty conservative and I know your political leaning. I must say that this was one hell of a post that I agree with you 100% on.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:23 pm to
i've thought about the concept of a reverse colbert report
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:26 pm to
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I am pretty conservative and I know your political leaning. I must say that this was one hell of a post that I agree with you 100% on.
Thank you. Funny thing is I am not a big Michael Moore fan and will probably check out some of the "righty" documentaries like Mitt or 2016 (it is only a year away) as a result of this post.
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:30 pm to
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i've thought about the concept of a reverse colbert report
I'd love to see that.

Think a show like that would have some haters?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63545 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:15 pm to
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michael moore's success


Moore's approach has been influential on a lot of younger filmmakers, but he or others with his approach are not the only documentary filmmakers out there. There's a hell of a lot of variety in style and approach.

Errol Morris (Fast, Cheap and Out of Control; Fog of War; The Thin Blue Line)
Nick Broomfield (Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer; Kurt and Courtney)
Andrew Jarecki (Capturing the Friedmans)
Jeffrey Blitz (Spellbound)
Ken Burns (The Civil War; Baseball)

etc, etc,
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:07 pm to
Reverse Colbert. Omg. It is as if you missed the entire point.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Dirty Don
Zachary
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:15 pm to
You're leaving out the constant barrage of interracial promotion (always a black man with a white woman, never the other way around) and the constant gay stuff.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422585 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:17 pm to
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Omg. It is as if you missed the entire point.

wait...satire of conservatives wasn't the point?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63545 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:25 pm to
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You're leaving out the constant barrage of interracial promotion (always a black man with a white woman, never the other way around) and the constant gay stuff.



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