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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

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Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:00 pm to
The thing is he is there as protection, supposedly, not as someone to take action as a first decision. In his role as body guard he should only be using lethal force as a last resort in a situation he cannot safely move his protectee and himself away from. It seems clear he didn’t even attempt this and chose to shoot immediately. Even the threat of force with just pulling your gun likely defuses this situation.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:00 pm to
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have postulated a reasonable explanation. Thoughts?


The news person is relatively unengaged in the photo. He looks more like a bystander than someone seeking a comment.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:00 pm to
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TRIGGER WARNING: Scary Postulation & Extrapolation Ahead (Context Clues again)



Thanks, but I will wait for facts. If I wanted a short story, I would happily read a short story. Short stories do not trigger me, as much as that is what you are looking for her. You are just itching for an argument. Is that your nature?

The dramatic opening with appropriate font is amusing however. Kudos to you sir. O henry would be impressed.
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:01 pm to
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And why did he do that to a random, unknown person less than four seconds after he just finished a lengthy confrontation with another person?


You tell me?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:01 pm to
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And Yes you assault someone as the aggressor and you arse is grass.


Thanks for encapsulating your misunderstanding of the law.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:01 pm to
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I have postulated a reasonable explanation. Thoughts?
He has an unchecked ego, an inflated sense of self-importance, and a disdain for Trump supporters.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:04 pm to
I believe you have presented a reasonable possibility of what transpired. Victim is angry at the time. Security is still (eventually) going to prison because he did not meet industry standards for protection of his client. This one is too easy.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:05 pm to
There is no reason. There was no prior association. The assailant established a relationship and the victim responded. The assailant then shot the victim.

Context clues.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:07 pm to
Emotions are irrelevant because the shooter had the upper hand and could have walked away. He was not in imminent threat and he retaliated with greater force than how he was attacked.

*he also hated Trump supporters and wanted them purged

**not responding to you directly just piling on.

This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

There is no reason. There was no prior association. The assailant established a relationship and the victim responded. The assailant then shot the victim.

Context clues.


Established a relationship by having the shite slapped out of him.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:12 pm to
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I believe you have presented a reasonable possibility of what transpired. .... Security ... did not meet industry standards for protection of his client.
You are probably correct, and that failure will have a LOT of relevance in the civil suit against Pinkerton.

I just do not see it as being very relevant in the criminal prosecution as to the instantaneous reaction by Dolloff within fractions of a second after (1) being assaulted by Bubba (blow to the head) and then (2) being gassed by Bubba.

We will see.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26351 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:13 pm to
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they have a confrontation

This is a key missing detail.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Established a relationship by having the shite slapped out of him.


Please stay away from Sonic. I do not want to read about the trails of bodies and you in jail. That would be a waste. I enjoy your posts on almost any other thread.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:16 pm to
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I just do not see it as being very relevant in the criminal prosecution as to the instantaneous reaction by Dolloff within fractions of a second after (1) being assaulted by Bubba (blow to the head) and then (2) being gassed by Bubba.
Again not a reasonable use of lethal force. Nowhere in this confrontation was his or his client's life at risk.
Posted by AGreySlate
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2018
864 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Bubba is walking away from loud, profane confrontation with BLM loudmouth. Bubba is pissed.

So someone is exiting an escalated situation where the more agitated party (“Black Guns Matter” guy) remains and was pointing at the victim yelling “mace me mutha’ fricka’” leads Doloff to be overly fearful of the gentleman who at least had the mind to exit the situation and Doloff is likely aware at this point he’s carrying pepper spray?

I think an important factor here is what happened as soon as he stepped away and what led to the slap (after/as the victim stepped AWAY mind you). Pushing off is a common defensive tactic to gain space and self-protection from the victims purview.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:19 pm to
it was a single slap, it was not continual kicks to the head. the slap ended, the confrontation should end especially if you are armed.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Established a relationship by having the shite slapped out of him.
You are stuck in that stupidity loop.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Doloff to be overly fearful of the gentleman who at least had the mind to exit the situation and Doloff is likely aware at this point he’s carrying pepper spray?
Not remotely what I said. I suggest that you re-read.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33509 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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