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re: Leaving Syria will be one of Trump's worst mistakes in office

Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:37 am to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:37 am to
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Going to bump this thread in 2 months when Turkish jihadists are beheading and raping Kurdish civilians.




Don't care
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:37 am to
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Going to bump this thread in 2 months when Turkish jihadists are beheading and raping Kurdish civilians.

That's nice.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:38 am to
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But I'd probably do something that bolsters the Kurds in the hopes it's a pain in the arse to ever increasing Iranian-Turkish relations.
Like arm them?
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22790 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:38 am to
Why are we more worried about the Middle East security than our own border security?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:40 am to
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If GenLee really thinks this is a bad move beyond the BS politics then you are here to educate him and not call him a tard, no?




No. I've learned from the left and the failures of the conservatives/libertarians. Education isn't a viable strategy. These people must be shamed and humiliated at every turn. Their ideas should be banned from discussion groups, their organizations should deplatformed. Saying neocon policy ideas should be as bad as dropping the N bomb in polite conversation. Then, they can choose to abandon anti american ideas, or hold them in secret, never telling anyone how they really feel.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:41 am to
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We let hundreds of thousands of Kurds get massacred after the first Gulf War and 100K+ might get killed in NE Syria after we leave now. This will make the Yazidi massacre in Iraq a few years ago look like child's play. I know it might not have been that way if we had never intervened at all, but the Kurds have really gotten screwed over by the USA multiple times.


Well let me make you an suggestion chief.

This is pretty much an open war, anyone is welcome to join in on the fun.

It is actually your lucky day, I am in Northern Saudi right now and can set you up, I will pick you up at the airport and point you in the right direction if you so chose. I will even furnish you a plane ticket, a rifle, and your first 1,000 rounds just for the lutz

I mean you feel so strongly that these people need defending by outsides why have you not saddled up already?

Or perhaps you are just a pussy who wants someone else to do your bleeding for you.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98653 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:41 am to
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So you'd rather see the Middle East continue to be infested with Islamists as opposed to a secular democracy


Actually, I would like to see it as an irradiated sheet of glass, but since that's never going to happen, I want US troops to only be there for as long as absolutely necessary for the strategic goals of the USA.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36006 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:41 am to
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Going to bump this thread in 2 months when Turkish jihadists are beheading and raping Kurdish civilians.

The same people who use this emotional bs to justify American imperialism had no problem arming the Saudi's to the teeth to kill Yemeni women and children by the thousands. These same people had no problem allying themselves with Saddam Hussein when he was oppressing the Kurds because he was hostile to Iran. These same people had no problem assassinating a democratically elected Allende in Chile and installing one of the most evil military dictators on the planet. There is nothing more disingenuous than the emotional garbage spewed by neocons who try and use humanitarian crises as justification to perpetuate American militarism.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32526 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:41 am to
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Why are we more worried about the Middle East security than our own border security?

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78462 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:42 am to
And.....

It’s folly to imagine that we have an INDEFINITE responsibility to protect the entire world from itself . There is just no end to it as long as humans exhibit human nature.

Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:43 am to

‘Donald’s Right’: Putin Welcomes U.S. Withdrawal From Syria

This whole Russia thing is a real pisser for Trump, isn't it?
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:44 am to
Our state department needs to be mature enough to sit down at a table with Putin and Assad so this doesn't happen. Unfortunately the deep state isn't nearly mature enough to do something like that.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:44 am to
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No. I've learned from the left and the failures of the conservatives/libertarians. Education isn't a viable strategy. These people must be shamed and humiliated at every turn. Their ideas should be banned from discussion groups, their organizations should deplatformed. Saying neocon policy ideas should be as bad as dropping the N bomb in polite conversation. Then, they can choose to abandon anti american ideas, or hold them in secret, never telling anyone how they really feel.



Very well said, they are the biggest threat this nation faces.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73431 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:44 am to
So.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79126 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:45 am to
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Not



Our




Problem
i get it, it's not our problem.

South Africa isn't our problem either, yet so many are advocating Trump to step in?
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:46 am to
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a secular democracy



Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:46 am to
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Or perhaps you are just a pussy who wants someone else to do your bleeding for you.

I don’t know man, his name is GeneralLee, though he could be referring to the car.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36006 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:46 am to
I don't care if this benefits Russia or not. I don't believe American lives are worth risking so a defense contractor can make a bigger profit or because the Israeli's and Saudi's want us to stay for their own benefit. The board's liberals were cheerleaders for our involvement in Syria and now are criticizing Trump for bringing our troops home.

Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:48 am to
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South Africa isn't our problem either

Still, not our problem...

Australia is telling them to come over, free farms, new life, etc.

If they don't want it...well, good luck!
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78462 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:50 am to
You can bump the thread anytime you want and I have NO DOUBT those things will happen. I’m wondering why you aren’t starting threads though, about Myanmar’s slaughter of the Rohingya or other areas where one group of humans is massacring another ?

I’m not suggesting the fate of the Kurds is not important. I’m just saying that the presumption that America must stop one half of the world from killing the other is a discredited and failed 20th Century concept that died somewhere in Iraq in 2006.
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