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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/12/26 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 5:18 pm to
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Trump’s envoys told Ukrainian officials the Russian diesel deal could help “soften” Moscow and revive peace talks, Reuters reports.

Incredible.
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Witkoff and Kushner again asked Kyiv to halt strikes on Russian refineries.

Also incredible.
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Ukraine made no formal commitment but signaled openness to a reciprocal energy ceasefire.

Sanity prevails.

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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 6:14 pm to
Trump sees the need to attack Iran and stop their missile development and nuclear program Cold. I was fine with that.

I can see folks suffering the consequences of higher fuel prices until Iran is toast to insure our safety.

But to jump up and blame Ukraine to gain cover and also help Putin is flat wrong.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13298 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 6:47 pm to
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Trump:

I think Putin wants to make a deal, and we have to get Zelensky to want to make a deal.

I think actually Putin wants to make a deal more than Zelensky.


Seriously, is this Dementia, or corruption, or blackmail, or straight up idiocy?

Does it matter?
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 6:49 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
6037 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Seriously, is this Dementia, or corruption, or blackmail, or straight up idiocy?

Does it matter?


Whatever it is, it seems to be getting worse.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
2134 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 7:04 pm to
I asked that yesterday. Something is way off
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I'm beginning to wonder if Trump is beginning to panic over diesel prices or, is dementia starting to manifest itself
Why would you post something like this you know is untrue?
Ukraine absolutely should ignore this nonsense and carry on.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 7:34 pm to
What a guy Cope is, just a regular dude who posts paragraphs of rants whenever someone doesnt fully support whatever current narrative Ukriane is pushing.

Zelensky's favorite cyber soldier
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Seriously, is this Dementia, or corruption, or blackmail, or straight up idiocy?

Does it matter?


My theory is a mix of 1 and 4, and no it doesnt
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 9:30 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43313 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 8:24 pm to
I’m 75 years old. I’m not as sharp as I once was. We have too many old folks running things in the White House, and in Congress.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:19 pm to
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Seriously, is this Dementia, or corruption, or blackmail, or straight up idiocy?


A little bit of #2, and a whole lot of #4.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41876 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:26 pm to
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Trump:

I think Putin wants to make a deal, and we have to get Zelensky to want to make a deal.

I think actually Putin wants to make a deal more than Zelensky.


What specifically is the issue with this statement?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8819 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

Trump:

I think Putin wants to make a deal, and we have to get Zelensky to want to make a deal.

I think actually Putin wants to make a deal more than Zelensky.


What specifically is the issue with this statement?


I don't disagree with Trump in some ways but the issue is that it's half the story.

I do believe Z is holding up peace on some points, but Russia hasn't done anything in good faith to show they are open to it either. Though I will grant that you can argue that they have no incentive to agree to anything like even a temporary ceasefire.
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