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Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:55 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:55 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 5:09 am to
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Another day of the mods having double standards when it comes to spamming propaganda

Can't be talking about me, I put up 8 posts yesterday.

You put up 19.

That's ok, I guess some of us have a harder time getting their point across.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 5:45 am to
I was actually discussing with people. You know, the purpose of a forum. You were spamming links. Hope that helps.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:17 am to
Speaking of shaping...

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Over three days, Ukrainian long-range drone strikes have dealt a tangible logistical blow to a rail line linking the military and industrial hubs of Volgograd and Rostov-on-Don. Preliminary analysis points to the destruction of traction substations and fuel tanks.




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The strikes have repeatedly targeted infrastructure along the rail line, which serves both industry and the supply of Russian forces, including those in Donetsk and Luhansk. The pattern points to a deliberate and systematic effort to disrupt the route






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Video uploaded by residents of Orlovskiy shows the local traction substation "Dvoynaya", which powers the railway movement, engulfed in flames. We've geolocated the site and assess it's likely to remain temporarily out of service. Coordinates:






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Another drone strike hit a train with fuel tanks in Salsk, a railway hub in Russia’s Rostov Oblast. The strike triggered intense flames and thick black smoke, likely disrupting rail traffic in the area for an extended period. Coordinates: 46.468951, 41.542977






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On July 27, Ukrainian drone strikes destroyed another traction substation, in Zhutovo, Volgograd Oblast, causing major disruptions, delays, and rerouting.






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The substation wasn’t the only target that day. A nearby building at the railway station was also completely destroyed. Based on our analysis of its location, exterior, and visible equipment, the structure was likely a signal control station






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We previously noted that this railway line is important due to its links to major military-industrial sites and installations, including airfields. At the same time, it’s neither the largest nor the only line in the area, suggesting deeper intent behind the strikes
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Overall, our team notes a systematic approach with deliberate target selection. The strike on the fuel-carrying train suggests Ukraine had detailed intelligence to time the attack precisely. We’ll keep updating this thread as more information emerges.


"... suggesting deeper intent behind the strikes."



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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:07 am to
23 killed, 54 injured in Russian attacks on Ukraine over past day

July 29, 2025 9:47 am

At least 23 civilians were killed and 54 others injured in Russian attacks across Ukraine over the past 24 hours, regional officials reported on July 29.

The attacks come only a day after U.S. President Donald Trump voiced frustration with Russia's refusal to cease fire and continued attacks against Ukrainian cities.

Ukraine's Air Force said Russia launched 37 Shahed-type attack drones and decoy drones and fired two Iskander-M ballistic missiles overnight.

Air defenses intercepted 32 drones, while five drones and two missiles struck three locations. Debris from the downed drones also fell in two additional areas.

The attacks were repelled using a combination of aircraft, mobile fire teams, electronic warfare units, and air defense systems, the military said.

In Zaporizhzhia Oblast, Russian air strikes killed at least 16 people and injured 35 when bombs hit a local prison. Governor Ivan Fedorov said eight FAB bombs destroyed prison buildings and damaged nearby homes. An 81-year-old woman was also injured elsewhere in the oblast.

Russian attacks in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast resulted in four fatalities and eight injuries, including two people in critical condition — one of whom is pregnant — and three others in moderate condition, Governor Serhii Lysak reported. A maternity hospital and several hospital wards were damaged.

In Kharkiv Oblast, two people were killed and one injured in Russian attacks that damaged civilian infrastructure, according to Governor Oleh Syniehubov.

The southern Kherson Oblast recorded one death and three injuries in Russian strikes on critical and social infrastructure, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin said.

Russian attacks also left two people injured in Donetsk Oblast and four more in Sumy Oblast, according to local officials.

The strikes come amid Russia's continued refusal to consider an unconditional ceasefire, as Moscow intensifies its use of drones and missiles against Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

The Kyiv Independent


As a result of Russian attacks a maternity hospital and several hospital wards were damaged in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Ukraine, on July 29, 2025. (State Emergency Service / Telegram)
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:11 am to
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Btw I have plenty of money

Ukraine needs it


Believe me, they got some from me.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:14 am to
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I was actually discussing with people. You know, the purpose of a forum. You were spamming links. Hope that helps.


what were you doing besides touting free speech; while you troll and call people names?

P H O N E Y

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:16 am to
I remember early in the war Ukrsine systematically attacked Russian logistics with great success. Perhaps they are returning to that strategy again.

It’s something to watch, that and the situation around Pokrovsk.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:18 am to
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what were you doing besides touting free speech; while you troll and call people names?

P H O N E Y


I asked you to link something you claimed and you couldn't do it. That isn't trolling. I sincerely asked and then you started dodging because you're a fricking liar And that isn't calling you a name, that's just an observation.... you know, since you lied about something.

Even if I were trolling that isn't antithetical to the tenets of free speech, nothing P H O N E Y about that.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:20 am to
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Believe me


We would, but you keep giving us reasons not to instead of just owning that you shot from the hip about something.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:27 am to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:46 am to
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Finally Cope posts something that I have been calling for for months. First kick them off of the welfare. Then Germany should round them up and send the cowards back to Ukraine to fight. Poland and all other European countries should do the same. Create a holding camp at the Polish border that all of the countries could ship them to. They could name it Camp Trump. Cope and LeeB could fly over and serve as camp guards. Z's collection squads could meet them at the border.



Cope and LeeB report for duty.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 9:32 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:03 am to
P H O N E Y

There are articles all over the internet that say Putin had his eyes on other nations including NATO countries.

I said they did, but you needed”proof” even though what I said is common knowledge and that anyone following the Ukraine situation and Putin should know.

But all you do is come herd, till Ikraine supporters, call them names, tell us how you are big in free speech and whine because sone here post things you don’t like and you want them booted off.

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:28 am to
Not a single link you posted backs up this claim:

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Putin has publicly stated his goals. Those goals involve taking Ukraine and several NATO countries.


He has not publicly said that his goal is to "Take Ukraine and Several NATO countries"

Not a single link you provided backs up that claim.

Lets ask ChatGPT. Keep in mind, you and your ilk LOVED using ChatGPT and other chatbots when "analyzing" the posts of people like JB (which it isn't even very good at because of how forums are structured and how it pulls posts). What these things ARE good at is finding quotes from news sources.... which, if he has said this multiple times as you claimed should be easy enough, correct?

Lets find out:

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Is this claim accurate? "Putin has publicly stated his goals. Those goals involve taking Ukraine and several NATO countries."


ChatGPT said:
The claim is not accurate as stated. Vladimir Putin has publicly articulated goals—most notably the "demilitarization," "denazification," and forced neutrality of Ukraine—but he has never publicly stated a goal of conquering additional NATO countries.

? What Putin has publicly said:
In his February 24, 2022 address launching the invasion of Ukraine, Putin framed Russia’s objectives as defending Russian speakers and accused NATO of threatening Russian security. He claimed Ukraine was developing nuclear weapons, oppressed Russian speakers, and was controlled by neo-Nazis—though those allegations are widely rejected internationally. He said the intent was not to occupy Ukraine but to secure “demilitarization and denazification” .

Since then, he has repeatedly emphasized Russia will achieve these objectives, demanding Ukraine become neutral, significantly downsizing its armed forces, and banning it from joining NATO or hosting Western weapons .

From December 2021, Russia put forward formal demands banning Ukraine and other former Soviet states from joining NATO and rolling back NATO deployments in Eastern Europe
Wikipedia
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? What Putin has not publicly said:
At no point has Putin publicly claimed a goal to take over several NATO countries. There is no record of him stating an ambition to invade or annex NATO-member states.

Some private or former officials—not Putin himself—have made extreme remarks, such as Dmitry Medvedev saying Russia must ensure the “disappearance” of both Ukraine and NATO . But that is not a public declaration by Putin.

?? Summary:
Claim Accuracy
Putin has publicly stated goals involving taking Ukraine ? Inaccurate—his stated goals are demilitarization, down-sizing Ukraine’s military, and imposing neutrality
Putin has publicly said he wants to take several NATO countries ? No evidence—he has not publicly declared such intentions

?? Why the misunderstanding?
Putin and other Russian officials have frequently cited NATO expansion or weapon deployments near Russia as “red lines,” claiming existential threats to Russia’s security, which they use to justify actions in Ukraine .

At the 2008 NATO Bucharest Summit, Putin reportedly warned that parts of Ukraine might cease to exist if Kyiv joined NATO—but again, that was about Ukraine, not NATO countries .

Final Thought
So while Putin has clearly stated public objectives focused on reshaping Ukraine’s political and military alignment, there is no public evidence he has declared a goal of conquering other NATO member states. The claim therefore is **


Who is the PHONEY here, really?

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Putin has PUBLICLY STATED his goals


Just one more reminder for you, Boomer Bob. This isn't a matter of difference of opinion, you claimed something and can't back it up and refuse to just acknowledge that.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 9:38 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8436 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:37 am to
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Cope and LeeB report for duty.



Lee isn't bad TBH. I disagree with him strongly on things, but he will debate, is mostly accurate, honest, and consistent with his political philosophy. I have been too hard on him in the past, especially in comparison to some of the other "winners" we have on here who deserve actual scorn.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:49 am to
I just give him a hard time because he is a leftist. But I disagree strongly with his political philosophy. I believe it is dangerous and ruinous for this country.

Take a look at California, the other blue states/cities and you see the result of his political philosophy.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 9:55 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42766 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:18 am to
Reminder, you aren’t the only one here entitled to an opinion, but you are the only one here that trolls the others, you are the only one who started calling people names, and you fix under the guise that you are sone kind of arbitrator and free speech advocate, when reality you are not.

Putin had said he wants to bring the empire back. I believe he does and I believe the old empire includes current NATO countries.

I don’t care if you believe that or not. You are entitled to your opinion too.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8436 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:31 am to
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you fix under the guise that you are sone kind of arbitrator and free speech advocate, when reality you are not.


Please provide any evidence of this, thanks. Or are you lying again?

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Putin had said he wants to bring the empire back. I believe he does and I believe the old empire includes current NATO countries.



But you said he PUBLICLY STATED that he wants to, and that is FALSE. I almost hope you're being intentionally obtuse or just completely dishonest, because the alternative is that you're very, very stupid.

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I don’t care if you believe that or not. You are entitled to your opinion too.



And you are entitled to believe that, 100%! But what you originally stated was not an opinion. You stated that he has publicly said something that he has not publicly said. Simple as that.

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you are the only one here that trolls the others, you are the only one who started calling people names,


Is sincerely asking someone for a quote (which they couldn't and still can't provide) trolling people now? Is that the bar?

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5744 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:49 am to
russian hybrid warfare targeting EU update

Colombian man accused of arson attacks in Poland on orders from Russian intelligence

July 29, 2025 3:36 pm

Poland's Internal Security Agency (ABW) has accused a 27-year-old Colombian national of carrying out two arson attacks in Polish cities on behalf of Russian intelligence, spokesperson Jacek Dobrzynski said during a press conference on July 29, Polish media outlet RMF24 reported.

The man is suspected of setting fire to construction warehouses in Warsaw on May 23 and in Radom, a city some 80 kilometers (50 miles) south of the capital, on May 30.

According to Dobrzynski, after the sabotage operations in Poland, the man traveled to the Czech Republic in June. While there, he was trying to torch a Prague bus depot and was thought to be planning another attack when local authorities detained him.

The news comes amid mounting warnings by Western officials of Russia's escalating hybrid operations and sabotage across Europe.

The kyiv Independent
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5744 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:23 am to
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