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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:35 pm to VolSquatch
Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:35 pm to VolSquatch
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By western does he mean Anti-NATO involvement?
Yes but it’s also a distinction without a difference.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:56 pm to T1gerNate
Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:58 pm to T1gerNate
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Western European counties don’t do anything without Washington’s either express or implied approval. Why? Because they can’t.
So you don’t want European countries to do anything to offset Russian aggression? A strong indication that you are pro Russian,
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their goals to recreate the USSR. laughable
While it’s unlikely Putin wants to put the USSR back together in its entirety, he has proven to be after Ukraine. He’d also seen as a threat to the Baltic States and Moldova. Belarus is an obvious target. Laughable? No
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you support the traditional Russian strategy of throwing 1000s of men against staunch defenses
reject the premise
But that’s what they’ve been doing for years now. You find their tactics intellectually stimulating while Ukraine has been seen to be the innovator.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:36 pm to cypher
Posted on 9/13/26 at 3:19 pm to VolSquatch
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You sure seem to want to talk about it a lot for someone who doesn't care and doesn't even have an opinion on it supposedly
There's that high-powered wit I was talking about. Always looking for a gotcha.
Call it that if you want, but I was responding to him. He's doubling down on me calling him a Russian. I care enough to tell him I'm not.
Also, I asked him a direct follow up question as to why he puts Ukraine in quotations. It's an odd thing to do.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 3:22 pm to T1gerNate
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Philosophically, I am not pro Russia, I am anti- US and Western involvement in Ukraine. Two different things. In terms of intellectual interest in the study of war, I find the Russian side more interesting because the “Kyiv” regime’s theory of victory seems to be to extort maximum western money through terror attacks and social media poasting while Russia is engaged in a more traditional infantry war that provides more intellectual enjoyment to me.
There you go again with the quotations. First, it's "Ukraine"; next it's "Kyiv". What is the rationale behind this?
Posted on 9/13/26 at 3:57 pm to SparkyWilson
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There's that high-powered wit I was talking about. Always looking for a gotcha.
Some of y'all always accuse me of looking for gotchas when most of the time I'm just observing the obvious and or literally quoting you
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There's that high-powered wit I was talking about.
Maybe they will invent something to allow me to share some one day
Posted on 9/13/26 at 3:59 pm to SparkyWilson
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There you go again with the quotations. First, it's "Ukraine"; next it's "Kyiv". What is the rationale behind this?
He certainly isn't helping his case
And here's you not really caring about it again
How long you two been married?
Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:00 pm to T1gerNate
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Yes but it’s also a distinction without a difference.
I think there's a pretty substantial difference.
Anything that keeps the US out of direct funding or involvement is fine with me. If we are slapping our hog on the table and making France give the Ukranians something with French money, I'm honestly impressed
Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:36 pm to VolSquatch
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Some of y'all always accuse me of looking for gotchas when most of the time I'm just observing the obvious and or literally quoting you
First time that I've done it. Your gotcha seeking is an issue of you getting it wrong. I don't care who he is. I do care that he's not getting the point and then throwing in name calling to boot.
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Maybe they will invent something to allow me to share some one day
We are all waiting with bated breath for that day.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:43 pm to VolSquatch
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He certainly isn't helping his case
Maybe it means something, maybe it doesn't. It comes across as odd, and I'm genuinely curious.
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And here's you not really caring about it again
Getting it wrong again I see; you're applying this "why do you care so much" schtick very broadly. I thought you'd be more supportive given this particular question from me to him is actually pertinent to the overall topic.
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How long you two been married?
6 years, 7 months, and 13 days, nosy.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:29 pm to SparkyWilson
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do care that he's not getting the point
You don't even really have a point to get, to be fair
Is it some divine revelation that people might be lying on a message board, and you're the first to ever figure it out? It so, congrats
Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:45 pm to cypher
Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:49 pm to VolSquatch
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You don't even really have a point to get, to be fair
Is it some divine revelation that people might be lying on a message board, and you're the first to ever figure it out? It so, congrats
I am the first to figure it out. Consider yourself fortunate for being present for it and thank you for the congratulations. You're a gentleman and scholar.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:39 pm to SparkyWilson
No clearly there was some supernatural revelation that led to this knowledge. No mere mortal could figure it out. It's almost like when Prometheus gave us fire.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:43 pm to VolSquatch
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No clearly there was some supernatural revelation that led to this knowledge. No mere mortal could figure it out. It's almost like when Prometheus gave us fire.
Haha. You are correct again, as always.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:21 pm to cypher
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:45 pm to cypher
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"Ukraine right now does not want to do that," U.S. President Donald Trump's envoy and son-in-law Jared Kushner said.
I have no faith in Kushner or Witkoff on this. Seems they go and meet Putin and come back with Putin's propaganda. Putin is the invader who dreams of being the second coming of Peter the Great, but he has managed to do is put his foot into the honey bucket.
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:56 pm to Auburn1968
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I have no faith in Kushner or Witkoff on this. Seems they go and meet Putin and come back with Putin's propaganda. Putin is the invader who dreams of being the second coming of Peter the Great, but he has managed to do is put his foot into the honey bucket.
Zelensky isn’t going to be a fool and agree to any deal that doesn’t provide Ukraine with security guarantees, and I don’t believe Trump would put the US in that position.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:35 am to Auburn1968
quote:Kushner and Witkoff are only interested in staying first in line for any business deals with Russia once the war is over. That's why they constantly repeat Putin's positions. They couldn't give a rat's arse about Ukraine's position and will try to stuff any peace agreement down Kyiv's throat as long as it opens the door to their deals in Russia.
I have no faith in Kushner or Witkoff on this. Seems they go and meet Putin and come back with Putin's propaganda. Putin is the invader who dreams of being the second coming of Peter the Great, but he has managed to do is put his foot into the honey bucket.
If you took away the US government cover for their trips, they would be exposed as the greedy thieves they really are.
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